Bryce Cartwright exempt from flu vax

[icyfroth]

Bryce Cartwright has been granted a medical exemption from receiving the flu vaccination following a controversial stand-off over the Titans forward's 'anti-vaxxer' stance.

It comes after it was confirmed teammate Brian Kelly accepted the vaccine, after previously refusing, enabling him to return to Gold Coast training on Thursday.

https://www.sportingnews.com/au/league/news/bryce-cartwright-issued-medical-exemption-over-flu-vacci...

hmmm..

[viewmont1071]

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@4channel wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

Frankly, I don't understand this hysteria about the players being forced to have the flu vax. They're only playing each other, and not in front of a crowd of supporters, They've all  been health checked and keeping to themselves in isolation, so what's the deal?

Besides, Fluvax is not compulsory for anyone other than healthcare or aged care workers, so why the big hammer "no jab, no play? They were never required to have it in previous years.

If they're worried about COVID...there's no vaccine against it anyway!

So...

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I wonder about that too. I was pretty disgusted with Morrison saying , "It should be no jab no play". Like "what the ?" I thought we're in a democracy and here's the PM talking like a facist dictator!

I''ve seen plenty of people taking time off work with the flu and yet they've had the vaccine. I've also seen people who have had the vaccine being crook after it and having milld to modderate symptoms for months afterwards.

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I think the NRL's stance on flu shots is primarily driven by risk minimization to protect against the possibility of negative press and inconvenience/loss of product and therefore income to sponsors...mainly Channel 9

Consider this scenario:

It's Friday afternoon a player due to play that night however has presented with a high temperature and flu like symptoms. He is immediately tested again for COVID 19 (and probably his teammates as well) even though they all tested a few days ago as negative.

The results however will not be available for at least 24 hours and probably a little longer.....

The player has been in close physical contact with all his team mates immediately prior so with due duty of care the NRL has no choice but to call the game off ( or at least postpone until the test results are known) and isolate the players and coaches, individually this time, to minimize any cross contamination within the team and sweat on the test results.

The tests come back negative ole mate was just getting the Flu.....meanwhile...

the mainstream media has created a maelstrom of negative press for the NRL. The financial loss and insecurity of income created by any such event would be catastrophic for the game and the sponsors.

There is no doubt that there is a much better chance of not getting the Flu if you have a vaccination ergo with 100% NRL team "herd immunity" there is a much less chance of a "false alarm" occurring.

[4channel]

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@not_for_sale2020 wrote:

People often hijack an issue and distort the facts to try and make the point that they want to make. But the fact here, according to Cartwright, is he did not want the vaccine because he has had a bad reaction to it in the past. He is not citing moral, ethical or religious reasons, unless he has been quoted in an article that I have not read. There may be more to this, but he has not revealed anything. What more there may be is in people's imaginations. . 

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Actually he shouldn't have to give a reason not to be vaccinated. Just a simple, "No thanks I don't want to be vaccinated" should be sufficient. Nobody should have vaccinations forced upon them. Let the people who want to be vaccinated be vaccinated and the ones whp don't be left alone.

[not_for_sale2025]

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@4channel wrote:

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Actually he shouldn't have to give a reason not to be vaccinated. Just a simple, "No thanks I don't want to be vaccinated" should be sufficient. Nobody should have vaccinations forced upon them. Let the people who want to be vaccinated be vaccinated and the ones whp don't be left alone.

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Unfortunately, this was a work matter where Cartwright was asked by his employer to accept the vaccine so he could continue to earn the substantial income he is on. Of course he could have said, "No thanks I don't want to be vaccinated", please accept my resignation. But he didn't, he requested to be exempted on medical grounds.

Just out of curiosity, will you feel the same way if a Covid 19 vaccine is developed and some people choose to say "no thanks"?

[4channel]

I believe that nobody should have vaccination forced upon them. I'm not an anti vaxxer either. That's my answer.

[not_for_sale2025]

Ok, I get it now. No more from me. 

[4channel]

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@not_for_sale2025 wrote:

Ok, I get it now. No more from me. 

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What it comes down to is respecting what people choose to do. Those who choose to get vaccinated should have their personal choice in the matter respected. And for those who choose not to be vaccinated should also be accorded that same respect. We are in a  free and democratic society supposedly.

[davewil1964]

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@4channel wrote:

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@not_for_sale2025 wrote:

Ok, I get it now. No more from me. 

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What it comes down to is respecting what people choose to do. Those who choose to get vaccinated should have their personal choice in the matter respected. And for those who choose not to be vaccinated should also be accorded that same respect. We are in a  free and democratic society supposedly.

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True. But if a condition of employment is that they be vaccinated, then their choice should also mean that employment being terminated.

[icyfroth]

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@davewil1964 wrote:

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@4channel wrote:

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@not_for_sale2025 wrote:

Ok, I get it now. No more from me. 

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What it comes down to is respecting what people choose to do. Those who choose to get vaccinated should have their personal choice in the matter respected. And for those who choose not to be vaccinated should also be accorded that same respect. We are in a  free and democratic society supposedly.

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True. But if a condition of employment is that they be vaccinated, then their choice should also mean that employment being terminated.

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But was COVID-19 vaccination a condition of the initial employment?

[icyfroth]

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@davewil1964 wrote:

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@4channel wrote:

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@not_for_sale2025 wrote:

Ok, I get it now. No more from me. 

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What it comes down to is respecting what people choose to do. Those who choose to get vaccinated should have their personal choice in the matter respected. And for those who choose not to be vaccinated should also be accorded that same respect. We are in a  free and democratic society supposedly.

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True. But if a condition of employment is that they be vaccinated, then their choice should also mean that employment being terminated.

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But was COVID-19 vaccination a condition of the initial employment?

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Because there is no such vaccination.

[davewil1964]

No, but a flu injection is.

He's an anti-vaxxer so, by definition, he doesn't care about society in general. His sudden relevation (when he was looking at the sack) that he has had an undocumented adverse reaction to the flu shot smacks of BS.

I imagine the idea is to not have any players catching flu. Because if they do, they will have to be isolated, as will their teammates and opposition players, until it is determined what the disease actually is.

Hardly conducive to running a football competition.