on 21-11-2013 05:18 PM
on 22-11-2013 10:24 AM
@polocross58 wrote:And that's your only concern ?
Self interest ?
Self interest before principle ?
So you'd rather we hand them billions of Aussies' hard earned dosh ?
Just to keep you under the illusion of 'safety, security' ?
Keep dreaming
What?!
I'm simply looking at the practicalities. I agree with you in prinicpal, but the Indons have us over a barrel and they know it.
To think we can make them back off by threatening to suspend foreign aid and train guns on boats really is dreaming IMO.
They can laugh in our faces just as easily as behind our backs.
on 22-11-2013 10:29 AM
I've always operated on the principle whereby if someone believes they have me over a barrel
and even if I believe they do
Then nothing to lose and full steam ahead
I'd rather die fighting than on my knees
Because
Because I'd rather die on my feet than on my knees
and if they're going to do it, they will anyway, sooner or later
I'm partial to sooner
So give them the white-man's icy-blue stare-down Abbott
I'm with you
and so are millions of others who would rather die defending pride and country
than die in the ditch after being enslaved
on 22-11-2013 11:06 AM
funny, yes but not ha ha
on 22-11-2013 11:14 AM
How many allies of the U S A are being covertly spied on......all of them no doubt........
Why would Australia be any different?
How could Indonesia believe Australia would not spy on them?.....
What government would have clean hands?
Ppppfftttttt....burn the flag....... if Indonesia keeps this up......they will suffer the wrath.
Abbott apologise......absurdly ridiculous.....
22-11-2013 06:55 PM - edited 22-11-2013 06:56 PM
Polo , I don't want any of my family to die on their knees as a consequence of others offensive racist remarks .
It is not always the side you think you are supporting who suffers from your words and actions.
on 22-11-2013 07:08 PM
it is not always = it can be
on 22-11-2013 07:30 PM
@siggie-reported-by-alarmists wrote:How many allies of the U S A are being covertly spied on......all of them no doubt........
Why would Australia be any different?
How could Indonesia believe Australia would not spy on them?.....
What government would have clean hands?
Ppppfftttttt....burn the flag....... if Indonesia keeps this up......they will suffer the wrath.
Abbott apologise......absurdly ridiculous.....
We don't want to fight but by Jingo if we do
We've got the ships, we've got the men, we've got the money too
on 22-11-2013 07:57 PM
on 22-11-2013 08:04 PM
international press = some obscure left-wing blog
on 22-11-2013 08:10 PM
@just_me_karen wrote:
Hey siggie, have you seen what they're saying in the international press about Abbott's handling of this issue?
"his handling of the diplomatic spat has reinforced perceptions of him as a foreign policy lightweight, producing gaffe after gaffe on the world stage,” the Independent said."
😄 it's so embarrassing innit!
diplomatic spat..... is that what "they" are calling it.......