Burqa 'confronting', says Tony Abbott.

[i-need-a-martini]

OMG!

And most of the country thinks this numbskull is suitable PM material??

And if that isn't bad enough when asked about Mr Kings proposed radical new policing system in which criminal suspects (only suspects mibnd you. Which i think means all Muslims in Mr Kings world)  would be injected with satellite trackable micro chips shot from a "high powered sniper rifle" his response was:

"I'm just not going to get into the micro-detail of policing," Mr Abbott said.

Micro detail? That is policing? How about "I'm not going to comment on what is obviously a ridiculous statement by King"? That would have been a more appropriate response Mr Abbott.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/burqa-confronting-says-tony-abbott-as-h...

[i-need-a-martini]

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@**meep** wrote:

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

I am wondering how many people who say they find burqas confronting have actually been confronted by a woman wearing one?

Very few I imagine.

I live in a strongly muslim area and I have rarely seen a woman in a burqa. 

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  i've always thought your area was predominately anglo saxon....Its not unusual to see women wearing burkas in lakemba area.

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Umm. No.

Until 5 years ago, I USED to live in Cronulla. You can't get more anglo saxon than that lol.

No more. Now I am in an area where I am sandwiched between 3 mosques!

[the_bob_delusion]

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@icyfroth wrote:

the burqas are better at Hungry Jacks

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OMG, I haven't laughed so hard all day. Good one Frothy

[i-need-a-martini]

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@nevynreally wrote:

Isn't peoples right to feel confronted by those who wear burkas? 

I don't feel those who do are necessarily oppressed, I just find it confronting. But it appears I'm not allowed feel that way, or more importantly, to voice that, opinion now without expecting to be put down for MY OPINION on the issue.

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It's not about you nev. You can voice whatever concern you have as it has no impact on the general attitude of the country.

However, a potential PM voicing a concern like that and supporting a man like King is not acceptable. 

[**meep**]

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

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@**meep** wrote:

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

I am wondering how many people who say they find burqas confronting have actually been confronted by a woman wearing one?

Very few I imagine.

I live in a strongly muslim area and I have rarely seen a woman in a burqa. 

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  i've always thought your area was predominately anglo saxon....Its not unusual to see women wearing burkas in lakemba area.

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Umm. No.

Until 5 years ago, I USED to live in Cronulla. You can't get more anglo saxon than that lol.

No more. Now I am in an area where I am sandwiched between 3 mosques!

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I had no idea you moved.  thought you were still there.  sounds like you're not too far from me then.

[i-need-a-martini]

Not quite. I am still south.

[the_bob_delusion]

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

And as an aside, it is about perception. And that is why Abbotts comments were so incredibly wrong. To play to peoples fear of the unknown is a low act.

Before I moved into my current area, I had never spoken to a covered muslim woman. I imagine most people would be the same.

Now a covered woman is simply part of my life. My neighbours who I visit with often wear full hijab to answer the door and take it off once I am in their home.My local beautician wears the hijab (mind you she is in a singlet and shorts when she waxes my eyebrows!). My local baker, my local chemist, my local chicken shop are all owned by muslim families so I don't think about what they are wearing.

They are simply wearing clothes befitting their culture. 

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Tell me which evolutionary human culture in history that interacts and communicates by covering their whole face. You really need to study the reason why the burqa was introduced. I have not heard one good argument for the burqa. Whoever those who wear it for religious reason have never read the Koran properly. No where does Allah say you need to cover your face. 

What other reasons are there, that you should have the right to wear whatever you want. Sure, but we set a standard of human decency. Give me one scientific or evolutionary reason that covering one's face to interact with humans is a sign of peace (ruling out masks, shields, tatts, as a sign of aggression or war)

If you can't justify your actions, you don't deserve a right to do it. 

[joz*garage]

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

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@nevynreally wrote:

Isn't peoples right to feel confronted by those who wear burkas? 

I don't feel those who do are necessarily oppressed, I just find it confronting. But it appears I'm not allowed feel that way, or more importantly, to voice that, opinion now without expecting to be put down for MY OPINION on the issue.

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It's not about you nev. You can voice whatever concern you have as it has no impact on the general attitude of the country.

However, a potential PM voicing a concern like that and supporting a man like King is not acceptable. 

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

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@nevynreally wrote:

Isn't peoples right to feel confronted by those who wear burkas? 

I don't feel those who do are necessarily oppressed, I just find it confronting. But it appears I'm not allowed feel that way, or more importantly, to voice that, opinion now without expecting to be put down for MY OPINION on the issue.

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It's not about you nev. You can voice whatever concern you have as it has no impact on the general attitude of the country.

However, a potential PM voicing a concern like that and supporting a man like King is not acceptable. 

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i agree with our future PM and nev, who have a right to an opinion

i frequently see them in the Thornlie area, they look like a gang to me, which always provkes a thought

[*elizabeths-mum*]

We lived in Harris Park for a year about 20 years ago and I was confronted regularly by women in Arab garb. I was even spat at. None wore a burqa, it was another 10 years before I saw that but I did develop a slight fear of women draped and veiled in black. Looking back now I'm inclined to think they were the 'bogans' of their culture. It was an awful period in my life but an insight into what it is like being in a minority.

[joz*garage]

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@icyfroth wrote:

the burqas are better at Hungry Jacks

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haha, depends if you like it without flaps

[i-need-a-martini]

I didn't say it had anything to do with religion bob. I said it had everything to do with culture.

But you hit the nail on the head when you say there is no evolutionary reason. But then again there is evolutonary reason to wear clothes at all but somehow we havemanaged to make that part of a global culture.

But as my friends across the road say, they feel naked in public without their covers. That is part of their culture. It's how they grew up. It's what their mothers and grandmothers wore. It's what they are used to.

By the same token, I grew up on a beach in Cronulla. My culture (defined within my italian culture) was to spend every waking moment in a bikini. It's what my friends wore and what my neighbours wore. I wore my bikini to the local shops. I wore it around the house. I wore it to do the gardening. And yet, many on CS would find this offensive also and I imagine confronting if they were not used to seeing a woman going about her everyday business in a bikini.

It's all about perception.