on โ05-03-2015 06:59 PM
...so is it too late to re-route that waste of funds to SPC as should have been done in the first place?
on โ06-03-2015 06:17 PM
@*julia*2010 wrote:Would that be for the possum flavoured chocolate?
Perhaps the Beef jerky chocolate?
not sure about that.
what i am referring to is the animal by-product.
The below products have been certified halal. Please note that we use halal certified gelatine in products that contain gelatine as an ingredient. https://www.cadbury.com.au/Products/Halal-Products.aspx
For meat to be halal it must come from a permitted source and it must be slaughtered according to Islamic rites. Pigs, for example, are not a permitted source because they are considered 'impure' and so pork is not halal.
Why is gelatine a problem?
Because of this, gelatine is a problem for Muslims as it is extracted from the bones and skins of animals, usually cattle or pigs. These are by-products of meat production. As you can imagine, when you read โgelatineโ on an ingredient list of a food label, itโs impossible to know whether itโs made from cows (acceptable) or pigs (not acceptable); and if from cows, whether the cow has been slaughtered in the correct (halal) manner. http://foodwatch.com.au/blog/additives-and-labels/item/q-i-have-noticed-halal-gelatine-on-food-label...
That's the point though. Makes no difference to the taste of the product. I really don't care if it means the company gets a bigger market.
on โ06-03-2015 06:18 PM
@*julia*2010 wrote:It's times like this I thank god I'm an atheist and don't have to worry about any old man's, out dated, dumbarrs rules and regulations being forced upon me.
forced? its their choice, didn't you know?
If you grow up in an environment in which religion features heavily it is forced upon you until such time that you learn that you do have the choice to make your own decisions and live your own life, free of the burdens of the religion and religious control.
on โ06-03-2015 06:30 PM
That's the point though. Makes no difference to the taste of the product. I really don't care if it means the company gets a bigger market.
you're right. it makes no difference to the
taste but it makes a difference to those of us
who oppose ritual slaughter - halal/kosher/
whatever.
โ06-03-2015 06:33 PM - edited โ06-03-2015 06:34 PM
I refuse to buy Halal food, any religion that consider my dogs to be vermin has no place in my life .... Call me whatever you like, water off a duck's back to me .....
on โ06-03-2015 06:36 PM
@*julia*2010 wrote:That's the point though. Makes no difference to the taste of the product. I really don't care if it means the company gets a bigger market.
you're right. it makes no difference to the
taste but it makes a difference to those of us
who oppose ritual slaughter - halal/kosher/
whatever.
Not in this case, its about whether the geletin comes from cows or pigs. In that respect, makes no difference to me which one.
on โ06-03-2015 06:39 PM
@gleee58 wrote:
@*julia*2010 wrote:It's times like this I thank god I'm an atheist and don't have to worry about any old man's, out dated, dumbarrs rules and regulations being forced upon me.
forced? its their choice, didn't you know?
If you grow up in an environment in which religion features heavily it is forced upon you until such time that you learn that you do have the choice to make your own decisions and live your own life, free of the burdens of the religion and religious control.
if you have children - what choice do you give them?
what do you teach them? do you turn them against
islam? or do you tell them from a very early age
that islam could be an option for them?
on โ06-03-2015 06:44 PM
@nevynreally wrote:
@*julia*2010 wrote:That's the point though. Makes no difference to the taste of the product. I really don't care if it means the company gets a bigger market.
you're right. it makes no difference to the
taste but it makes a difference to those of us
who oppose ritual slaughter - halal/kosher/
whatever.
Not in this case, its about whether the geletin comes from cows or pigs. In that respect, makes no difference to me which one.
yes, in this case as well.
As you can imagine, when you read โgelatineโ on an ingredient list of a food label, itโs impossible to know whether itโs made from cows (acceptable) or pigs (not acceptable); and if from cows, whether the cow has been slaughtered in the correct (halal) manner.
on โ06-03-2015 06:55 PM
@*julia*2010 wrote:
@nevynreally wrote:
@*julia*2010 wrote:That's the point though. Makes no difference to the taste of the product. I really don't care if it means the company gets a bigger market.
you're right. it makes no difference to the
taste but it makes a difference to those of us
who oppose ritual slaughter - halal/kosher/
whatever.
Not in this case, its about whether the geletin comes from cows or pigs. In that respect, makes no difference to me which one.
yes, in this case as well.
As you can imagine, when you read โgelatineโ on an ingredient list of a food label, itโs impossible to know whether itโs made from cows (acceptable) or pigs (not acceptable); and if from cows, whether the cow has been slaughtered in the correct (halal) manner.
It matters to some. It doesn't bother me. Whether cows are slaughtered the Halal way or not, they are still slaughtered. Don't like it, try vegetarianism. Avoiding Australian companies, or even foreign owned Australian companies who employ Australians just hurts us. The only difference you're making with your stance is that you're costing Australian jobs.
on โ06-03-2015 07:20 PM
@nevynreally wrote:
@*julia*2010 wrote:
@nevynreally wrote:
@*julia*2010 wrote:That's the point though. Makes no difference to the taste of the product. I really don't care if it means the company gets a bigger market.
you're right. it makes no difference to the
taste but it makes a difference to those of us
who oppose ritual slaughter - halal/kosher/
whatever.
Not in this case, its about whether the geletin comes from cows or pigs. In that respect, makes no difference to me which one.
yes, in this case as well.
As you can imagine, when you read โgelatineโ on an ingredient list of a food label, itโs impossible to know whether itโs made from cows (acceptable) or pigs (not acceptable); and if from cows, whether the cow has been slaughtered in the correct (halal) manner.
It matters to some. It doesn't bother me. Whether cows are slaughtered the Halal way or not, they are still slaughtered. Don't like it, try vegetarianism. Avoiding Australian companies, or even foreign owned Australian companies who employ Australians just hurts us. The only difference you're making with your stance is that you're costing Australian jobs.
no thanks. i have no intention of becoming
a vegetarian. i do no support unstunned slaughter.
once i know there are no legal exemptions for this
practice in australia and ALL halal slaughter involves
stunning then i will have no other objection to halal.
on โ06-03-2015 07:26 PM
@daydream**believer wrote:
@azureline** wrote:
@daydream**believer wrote:Cadburys failures are due to 3 things:
They pay for halal certification
The use of palm oil
They are going to shrink block size but keep the price the same.
I ,along with many many people choose not to buy Cadburys due to 1, 2 or 3 of the reasons above.
At my local shops, the Cadbury shelves are always full, no matter what kind of "special" they are having.
Cadbury only use palm oil in some fillings, I believe ................in that link it shows you which chocolates don't contain palm oil.
Easter eggs, some of them also contain palm oil but I think they are only filled ones? and they use sustainable palm oils.
All of cadburys, including their Easter Eggs, are halal certified
I am uncertain what that has to do with palm oil?
I was addressing the reason given for number 2.
their chocolate is Halal certified.
they reduced the block size and kept the RRP the same.