Capsicum spray

[donnashuggy]

why doesn't it work sometimes?

[lurker172602]

We were discussing this yesterday and some one in the group said, "if it were a dangerous animal escaped from the zoo they would just shoot it with a tranquilliser dart.  Why not with people?"

[raptor_rebooted]

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@lurker172602 wrote:

We were discussing this yesterday and some one in the group said, "if it were a dangerous animal escaped from the zoo they would just shoot it with a tranquilliser dart.  Why not with people?"

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Tranquillizer darts are not generally included in military or police less-than-lethal   ars-e-nals because no drug is yet known that would be quickly and reliably effective on humans without the risks of side effects or an overdose. This means that effective use requires an estimate of the weight of the target to be able to determine how many darts (if any) can be used. Shooting too few would result in no effect whatsoever, while too many can kill the target According to James Butts, Santa Monica, CA Chief of Police, "Tranquilizing agents don't affect everyone uniformly. Therefore you cannot predict whether or not you have a sufficient dose to tranquilize the individual. Second, any tranquillizer will take time to enter the bloodstream and sedate the individual. If someone is advancing on you with a deadly weapon or a threatening object, there's no way a tranquillizer would take effect in the two to three seconds it would take someone to seriously injure you."

[karliandjacko]

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@lurker172602 wrote:

We were discussing this yesterday and some one in the group said, "if it were a dangerous animal escaped from the zoo they would just shoot it with a tranquilliser dart.  Why not with people?"

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Yeah, why not. At least there would be one less traumatised mother and one less traumatised police officer today if that were the case.

[lurker172602]

Thanks for that julia.  I'm not trying to be difficult, but how are they able to make those judgements about our hypothetical escaped animals but not about people?  Are the animals expendable?  Is that the difference?

[j*oono]

I don't think it makes any difference to how the police should have behaved if she was acting dangerously but it turns out that the woman had Aspergers.

[karliandjacko]

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@j*oono wrote:

I don't think it makes any difference to how the police should have behaved if she was acting dangerously but it turns out that the woman had Aspergers.

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She's not the first with a disability or mental health problem that has been shot.  It's a shame there's not a simple answer.  As she is local I wonder if the Hungry Jacks staff knew her and or her mother.  

It's just a sad case that can't be reversed.

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@donnashuggy wrote:
why doesn't it work sometimes?

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Well, because Capsicum spray is so much kinder to the eyes than Capsacin spray.

[vicr3000]

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@this-one-time-at-bandcamp wrote:

The Police spokesperson stated that, "A tazer was utilized".............and no witnesses are sure about the number of shots fired.

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Where shots are fired close to buildings, especially if you are standing near them, you can get an echo effect

which can make it sounds like two (or more) shots.

As for shooting arms or legs, unless very well practised, it is damn hard to hit a moving target, let alone

and arm or a leg. And centre body mass it what is taught so it tends to be instinctive, it's not always a

"thought process" each time, that's just where aim automatically.