Chemtrails are real

[fourandsixpants]

Chemtrails 

Weather Engineering

GeoEngineering.............it's real....it's happening..........just look out your window..............open your eyes and look up.

Seriously, if you notice unusual 'cloud formations' or unexplained/unusual skies.............'chemtrail activity' in your area then this thread is here to report what you see, describe what unusual weather patterns you are experiencing...

Debate and discuss.

[not_an_eloi]

the logical explanation to that question, folks, go 'ere:  

http://www.nmsr.org/pilotsvu.htm

[colic2bullsgirlore]

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@icyfroth wrote:

ok but if they're just harmless contrails, why would pilots be flying around making grid patterns in the sky?

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Dog fight contrails over London 1940..... they still leave the same contrails when they practice aerial 'dogfights" to this day

[**meep**]

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@colic2bullsgirlore wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

ok but if they're just harmless contrails, why would pilots be flying around making grid patterns in the sky?

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Dog fight contrails over London 1940..... they still leave the same contrails when they practice aerial 'dogfights" to this day

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 Battle of Britain.

[lakeland27]

[monman12]

IF:  "ok but if they're just harmless contrails, why would pilots be flying around making grid patterns in the sky?"

Because IF,  once you start flying high altitude aircraft you invariably do it via flight plans and promulgated airways. These airways are just like freeways/ motorways and navigation points are just like crossroads, or overpasses.

P007 is a conspiracy nutter sans science background,  but on a practical and economic scale IF, do you really believe hundreds of multi engined jet aircraft  are openly "spraying" us in open view? Why? Why again?

I do know what is involved in aircraft operations  both on the ground and in the air, and also what would be required to fit-out a modern jet for carriage of liquids (airborne refuelling)

IF, I also suspect you know very little/ nothing about aircraft operations, atmospheric physics, cost of  keeping aircraft airborne, or even why we would be sprayed in broad daylight, and by whom? and for what purpose?

However IF, show me a photograph of an evil chemsprayer aircraft in action (not a photograph of a contrail/cirrus morph, or perhaps P007 can, they are always lurking above  his/her head every day in full view, why do they do that?, if it was myself I would do it at night or in cloud, and certainly not at high altitude because jet-streams / upper air movement can be quite severe

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[fourandsixpants]

Yes cosmosgrove, these are indicative of chemtrail activity.

[fourandsixpants]

replying to the_great_she_eleph… about her suggesting that what I and 3 others witness and filmed was a Virgin (or 'other' airline?!) commercial plane flying over Bunbury from Busselton on its way another destination in WA.

Are you qualified in flight directions or flight paths yourself?

Do you have proof of commercial flight paths over Bunbury WA?

What reference can you offer to prove your assuptions pls?

I assure you it was not. I am ex-defence force. One of the other witnesses is ex-defence force.

I would load footage but am not that tech savvy. Happy to if someone can talk me thru this please. I have had the footage d/loaded onto my computer but not sure what/how to get onto you tube or somewhere else so I can provide a link to those interested on here.

I may have been incorrect with altitude estimate given. I now believe plane we saw was flying much higher possibly up to 25-35,000 feet.

A previous link I have given..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCohucT7FmQ  if you scroll thru to 2:17mins there are 4 pics of planes in frames. Photo/pic 'C' is very similar to what we saw.....a huge 4 engined plane where the back end(underneath) was 'bright scarlet red' and the rest of the plane was 'silver'.

As for sheelephant stating " ..None of this proves conclusively of course that  the plane you saw wasn't deliberately spraying the countryside and ocean around Bunbury with chemicals. It does prove, however - together with Mr Grizz's conflicting evidence - that one needs to consider all possibilities before jumping to conclusions..".....are you ex-judiciary?!

All he stated from memory was that 'nothing was turned off..." he may live in Richmond for all I know.

I would though like to know what day/date and time he saw his plane. Then I will know if we are all talking about same event. I will not reveal my account details on this....yet:) but I can tell you it was quite recent.

I am not 'jumping to conclusions'.....you seem to be though.

I have simply reported a eye witness account of what I and 3 others witnessed and filmed. The truth speaks for itself.

http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/what-the-hell-are-they-spraying-on-us/

[colic2bullsgirlore]

Forget about Harp....what is Warrp??

West Australian route review project

http://www.airservicesaustralia.com/wp-content/uploads/warrp_InfoRes_factsheet.pdf

What is WARRP?

The Western Australia Route Review Project (WARRP) was a

comprehensive review of airspace use, flight routes and aviation

procedures across Western Australia. The review was undertaken by

Airservices between 2006 and 2008. Changes were implemented in

November 2008.

Why were changes needed?

Air traffic in WA, and particularly around Perth, has experienced massive growth since 2000, mainly as a result of the mining boom.

There has been a 60 per cent growth in air traffic in the past five years alone at Perth Airport.

In addition, airspace around Perth is extremely complex. Large areas close to the metropolitan area are used by the

military for flight training and other exercises.

Military use of this restricted airspace has increased over the past decade, reducing its availability for

civilian air traffic.

Perth’s second airport, Jandakot, is one of the busiest airports in Australia, with more aircraft movements than Perth Airport.

Virtually all of this traffic is light aircraft. There has been a significant increase in flight training activities at Jandakot in recent years.

Are there new flight paths? Where are they?

Most changes took place well outside the Perth greater metropolitan area, in rural WA.

Closer to Perth airport, aircraft arriving from the north and intending to land on Runways 03 and 06 (also to the north) now follow a new route to the east of the airport before turning to land.

There were aircraft flying in this area before, but less frequently. These aircraft are now flying more precise routes due

to improvements in navigation technology and performance.

[fourandsixpants]

further: in reply to sheheffalump

I stated in my 'witness account' (LOL) ..."As i said the plane (came from a SW direction) and continued off in a NW direction. I ask you, what landform is directly off the coast from Bunbury in a NW direction...oh yes, India. Right, so show me where commercial flights coming from Eastern parts of Australia are now diverting south of Perth, not stopping at Perth airport (by your reckoning!!) to fly over lil ol' Bunbury before they head off, without refuelling to continue onto India."....

heffalump states "....If the plane you saw over Bunbury was coming from the SW, then by your own calculations it can only have been coming from Busselton - the only land mass SW of Busselton is Antarctica.

You say the plane headed  off in a NW direction towards India, however,  veer just a little further North of South and you hit the WA coastline near Exmouth. "

My bad....the plane seen chemtrailing that myself and 3 other witnesses watched and filmed came from a SE direction (not a from the SW as I originally reported-shoot me).....it did continue over us in a NW direction.It was more than 20,000 feet up.

[colic2bullsgirlore]

  http://www.jandakotairport.com.au/community/aircraft-noise.html

  Number of Aircraft Movements

Although aircraft today are much quieter than they were 20 years ago, the number of aircraft and the frequency of aircraft operations have increased dramatically. While the average aircraft noise level is reducing, the number of times you will hear aircraft noise is increasing.

Jandakot Airport is one of Australia’s busiest airports, with an average of 330,000 movements per annum. The number of aircraft movements is forecast to increase, reaching in excess of 470,000 movements per annum within a 20 year period. A theoretical total airport capacity of 514,650 fixed wing movements was identified in the Jandakot Airport Master Plan 2005.

PERTH FLIGHT DENSITY MAP ON THE LINK BELOW

http://www.jandakotairport.com.au/images/files/Noise/PERTH%20FLIGHT%20DENSITY%20MAP.pdf