Well I am learning as I go too don't forget but your first pic is a hard one because of the 'ribbed' looking formations bottom right.
The long trails certainly don't look like they are 'natural' cloud formations - a further shot zoomed 'out' might give more info I guess.
Could be initial stages of some 'persistent contrail' activity going on.....and the fuzzy 'ribbed' area could have been laid at a diff altitude at an earlier time previous to these striation type trails being laid?
Your 2nd pic screams 'Chemtrails' ....and/or 'Persistent Contrails' IMO and I am certainly not a qualified met scientist or .....doesn't look good at all, hey.
Definitely 2 different layers been laid here.......one direction for upper layer, which has dispersed and spread out and 'grid' effect laying of lower layer which wind currents have not dispersed yet.
This is what it looks like to me anyhoo.
Hhhmmmnnn....getting a headache
LOL
@paintsew007 wrote:Geez you two 'guys' are cocky- meaning Lakeland and ibis.....am assuming you are both males.
You would both have a great deal of trouble 'bagging' me, an insurmountable challenge it would be.
For two reasons:
first because I am very very clever and you would not get me into a bag
second because I am a woman, my name is Jane and not Janie babes but happy to go with the line.....nobody puts baby in the corner.
As for you Siggie.....I stated why I have not posted vid yet. Just go out and count clouds or something until tonight/tomorrow.
cocky as opposed to what ? chooky perhaps ? speaking up/out isn't gender specific as evidenced by this thread and others.
and i know i'd have trouble bagging you as you seem unshakable. and a tip, if you look through archived photo's of the Vietnam war you might find some aircraft with genuine herbicide tanks on the inside.. photo's of the defoliant being dispersed by aircraft aren't difficult to find. 
P007 I am have mentioned to you before that your credibility is based upon your posts and references, and whilst you have indicated you know nothing about science atmospheric physics etc, why do you insist on copy/paste material in large blocks that attempts to expose evil chemtrails with a similar grasp of science and nonsensical explanations. Your choice of individuals for "technical" explanations leaves a lot to be desired also, unless you are partial to nuts.
However, when it comes to using the evil chem hunters photo album to underwrite your conspiracy theories you end up being viewed as disingenuous as they are, and by extrapolation your comments and posts will (are) to be viewed accordingly, even allowing for your lack of scientific knowledge.
P007: "What....you are disputing footage of posted i/net filmed events, thousands of events?....because of your beliefs?!! *wow"
NO, really?, actually disputing posted i/net filmed stuff, like this from one of your postsP007:
Now that is obviously so evil and proves that all the other chemtrail watchers stuff is as valid.
Now the facts:
The photograph is "The pressurized retardant tanks of a 747 firfighting Supertanker. The retardant is forced out by compressed air. Whilst the nefarious patent:
Patent: Aerial delivery system US 7413145 B2
Abstract
"A method and apparatus for aerial fire suppression utilizing a potable fire retardant chemical dispensing system, readily adaptable, without extensive aircraft modification, to various makes of aircraft......."
The aerial delivery system is capable of carrying and dropping a load at about 2,500 feet. and can drop about 25,000 gallons of fluid in approximately 5 seconds. (watch your head P007).
Photographs taken in Hahn, Germany, July 7, 2009 at an air show, where the public had free access to the evil aircraft.
P007 it only takes one bad apple photograph in your barrel of "i/net filmed thousands of events" to flavour the rest, and you have so far produced more than one!
Ref: http://wildfiretoday.com/2009/07/30/747-supertankers-world-tour/
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Still not one piece of evidence from the OP..........typical Alarmist!
Not really a surprise though...............
