Coalition to Deny Asylum Seekers Government Help to Navigate Migration Process

A Coalition government will harshen its stance against asylum seekers even further, denying those who arrive by boat the right to free government advice and help with lodging appeals.

                           

The Coalition's scrapping of taxpayer-funded assistance for asylum seekers, to be announced on Saturday by opposition immigration spokesman Scott Morrison, will save the budget about $100 million over the next four years.

 

Even under the harsh border protection policies of former prime minister John Howard, such protections existed for asylum seekers, but Mr Morrison said they had gotten ''out of hand'' with the ''deluge of boats'' under Labor.

       

An Abbott government would not prevent refugee advocates from giving free legal advice to asylum seekers, but taxpayers would no longer be paying for it, Mr Morrison said.

       

''This level of support is not provided to those who currently legally arrive in Australia,'' Mr Morrison said. ''They have to pay for it themselves.''

 

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Oooh Waaah!

 

That's going to put the cat amongst the pigeons.

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"The key to our position here, it's been a strong and consistent position for 10 years now, is that people who come illegally by boat will not be granted permanent residency," Mr Abbott said.

 

I don't understand "who come illegally by boat". It is not illegal to seek Assylum in Australia, even if arriving by boat.

 

sorry about the large text, it won't go back to regualr size, it just decided to do that.

 

I agree with the TVP's. Sort of like 3 year good behaviour bonds and/or return to destination of origin once it is safe to do so. I have no problem with that. The whole idea is to provide sanctuary for those in danger. Once the danger is over, let them go home and return under legal methods. (I say legal, as if they are no longer in danger etc, then they cannot legally claim assylum) If their motivation for seeking sanctuary here is safety, then I have no problem denying permanent residency,

 

As for "no right to appeal" I have no problem with that either. We're not a selfish country, we don't just deny people assistance because we're not very nice people or because we feel like it. If they appeal and are denied, then that's how it is, they need to accept no for an answer, not consume resources that are already stretched so thinly and not even covering the needs of our citizens.


Here's the thing, we just can't help everybody. It would be great if we could, but we just can't. From what I understand, we are in enormous debt at the moment, so actions need to be taken to reduce that debt and that will no doubt require cutbacks in many areas.

 

I believe that those opposing the coalition's proposals on this matter are either being played and not looking at the big picture, or are playing on people's emotions in a desperate attempt to besmirch the opposition.

 

The bottom line is, the spending has to stop. If any party decided to reduce spending in areas such as Health, Education, Pensions etc, the outcry would be no different as they are equally emotive topics.

 

If Australia doesn't start following some basic Economic principles (regardless of who is in power) then we will end up being the Assylum Seekers ourselves. We cannot survive on debt. Eventually people want their money back and they stop wanting to give you more.

 

We need to cut the spending. We need to reduce debt. We need to remain a strong country, not only for our own citizens, but so that we can continue to help others into the future.

 

The difference between the rich and the poor is that the rich invest first then spend what's left over. The poor spend first and invest what's left over. Whilstever Australia is in debt, we cannot invest. We need to reduce/eliminate debt and build capital, or we won't even be able to provide Basic Human Rights for ourselves, far less help other people as well. It's as simple as that.

 

Human Rights - pfft - it seems we throw those two words around so discriminately, eh? Who is crying out for the Human Rights of the homeless people in our society? Who is crying out for the Human Rights of our elderly? Just because they are already in Australia, doesn't mean that their lives are not in danger.

 

It is illegal to sleep under a bridge regardless of whether you are rich or poor.


Some people can go their whole lives and never really live for a single minute.

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A Coalition government will harshen its stance against asylum seekers even further, denying those who arrive by boat the right to free government advice and help with lodging appeals.

                           

The Coalition's scrapping of taxpayer-funded assistance for asylum seekers, to be announced on Saturday by opposition immigration spokesman Scott Morrison, will save the budget about $100 million over the next four years.

 

Even under the harsh border protection policies of former prime minister John Howard, such protections existed for asylum seekers, but Mr Morrison said they had gotten ''out of hand'' with the ''deluge of boats'' under Labor.

       

An Abbott government would not prevent refugee advocates from giving free legal advice to asylum seekers, but taxpayers would no longer be paying for it, Mr Morrison said.

       

''This level of support is not provided to those who currently legally arrive in Australia,'' Mr Morrison said. ''They have to pay for it themselves.''

 

Click Here To Read Whole Article

 

Oooh Waaah!

 

That's going to put the cat amongst the pigeons.


Fair enough, they are offered free advise so what's the problem and why should they get tax funded advise when others don't ?


Keep it nice, I might cry if you write anything upsetting (like not)
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i knew they'd up the ante and prove who really is nastier , they seem worried the PNG thing seems to have had an effect.

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i knew they'd up the ante and prove who really is nastier , they seem worried the PNG thing seems to have had an effect.


So you admit the labor party is nasty LL ?


Keep it nice, I might cry if you write anything upsetting (like not)
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i knew they'd up the ante and prove who really is nastier , they seem worried the PNG thing seems to have had an effect.


And you know this, how ?


Keep it nice, I might cry if you write anything upsetting (like not)
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@lakeland27 wrote:

i knew they'd up the ante and prove who really is nastier , they seem worried the PNG thing seems to have had an effect.


So you admit the labor party is nasty LL ?


 to asylum seekers yes i do , but its not the first time iv'e said that.. i prefer greens policy in that area.

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@newstart2380 wrote:

@lakeland27 wrote:

i knew they'd up the ante and prove who really is nastier , they seem worried the PNG thing seems to have had an effect.


And you know this, how ?


 lack of boat reports lately, it seems to have slowed.

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wot a miserable bunch of bleeps. 
 
folk are not as flamin' gullible as abbrott and 'is mangy mob may think.
 
"Prime Minister Kevin Rudd and Opposition Leader Tony Abbott believe the election is a tighter race than the latest opinion polls suggest"
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he is going to stop the boats ... isn't he (so he says)

surely denying asylum seekers of  legal support and assistant (unless they can pay for it) is not something that can be done in this Country in this day and age?

 

 

 

that seems like  persecuation 

 

 

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@lakeland27 wrote:

@newstart2380 wrote:

@lakeland27 wrote:

i knew they'd up the ante and prove who really is nastier , they seem worried the PNG thing seems to have had an effect.


So you admit the labor party is nasty LL ?


 to asylum seekers yes i do , but its not the first time iv'e said that.. i prefer greens policy in that area.


    Even Palmer is more compassionate towards asylum seekers.

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