on 13-03-2020 07:07 AM
Coronavirus update: Formula One Grand Prix called off, Trump announces travel ban, Tom Hanks tests positive
on 31-03-2020 12:31 PM
@rogevibe wrote:
@*kazumi* wrote:
@rogevibe wrote:
@lionrose.7 wrote:You cant have chairs, they will carry Germs, one of the germs could be the Virus, think about it
Skin is a good barrier againgst virures , just do not cut yourself ( those that shave , best at night before venturing out in public)
You do not get COVID19 through cut into blood stream. You need to get it in your mouth or inhale it. It is a respiratory disease.
Chairs can be wiped with sanitiser, rubbing alcohol or whatever. Our doctor's surgery gives flu shots to people in their cars parked behind in their private car park. To prevent people coming in.
The lungs and the person's immune response is the weak link in dealing with SARS-CoV-2 virus
Entering the body via a cut on skin, course you can , if there is virus on the skin where the cut is , the virus replicates in blood cells
Also is most likely sexually transmitted ( but do not say where you read this )
Do you have a link for this, or can you recall where you learned it? I can find nothing that states the virus can infect a person via a cut, or open wound. Everything I have read states it enters through the eyes, nose or mouth.
on 31-03-2020 04:38 PM
Virgin Australia seeks $1.4 billion bailout, Qantas says if that happens, it wants $4.2 billion
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-31/virgin-seeks-coronavirus-bailout/12105654
why not give richard a call?
on 31-03-2020 06:54 PM
on 31-03-2020 07:28 PM
Re your first question, 'yes' there are 8 known strains now, but none appear to be more dangerous.
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6704282/mutating-coronavirus-now-has-8-strains/?cs=14232
on 31-03-2020 07:59 PM
@kitty-kat-kollection wrote:
I have some questions.
1. A friend of mine said she read there were now EIGHT strains of this hideous virus. Does anyone know about this? Are some strains the mild ones or are the widely varied symptoms more based on an individual's immune response? How can they possibly come up with an effective vaccine against EIGHT strains? (for now. It may mutate again)
2. The reason some people succumb to the pneumonia part of this (and the ARDS - acute respiratory distress syndrome, then sometimes organ failure from lack of oxygen to the body) is not directly because of the virus but because of the immune system's response to it.
When you get a cold for example, all the stuff your nose / throat / lungs annoyingly produce is not actually that cold virus, but rather your immune system detecting the virus as a foreign body, a bad thing, and then creating a heap of inflammation to try to get rid of it.
Same with this virus, but way more extreme. So...in the people who get it really severely, is their immune system too efficient? Has it gone into hyper vigilant mode? Can this be safely dampened down by say steroids (that suppress the immune system) until the person's lungs aren't drowning in fluid anymore, caused by the immune response? Or is it too risky to lower immunity when the body is trying to fight the virus?
3. I've heard that autopsies carried out on some patients who did not survive showed the lungs had hardened like marble (so could not expand and contract in order to breathe) and were full of a thick pus-like mucus, not liquid.
Also, it's always said that a main symptom is a dry cough. And in fact, many people who get pneumonia not related to COVID19 also get a dry cough. But why is it dry if there is mucus in the lungs? Is it because the pneumonia hits too deep down in the lungs, so unlike say bronchitis, which targets the much higher up bronchi and results in a productive cough, people can't cough it up?
So...would there be any kind of benefit to giving people who have a dry cough from this virus, before it gets to a pneumonia stage, an expectorant cough medicine to thin the mucus and thus perhaps turn that useless dry cough into a productive one to maybe help clear the lungs?
Just wondering...
My reading of the subject Yes Yes Yes , so what to do now that may minimise damage from a nasty infection ?
One can look for hints at those that do not get badly affected
ie youth .
So how is youth different compared with those that are hospitalised ?
maybe one difference is physical activity , exercise , sustained movement - and so an efficient lymphatic system , cellular waste disposal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lymphatic_system
https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/conditionsandtreatments/lymphoedema
ref section " The Lymphatic System"
So for the more older of the population maybe some effective exercise machine might be helpful during the time of quarantine , might be helpful in minimising other seasonal ills - has been mentioned is not a good time to be grossly overweight.
Mucus is a problem ? Maybe reducing mucus forming foods could be helpful if alternates can be consumed. Wonder if elderly vegetarians suffer as much as those of the Standard Western Diet ? An interesting research project .
on 31-03-2020 09:03 PM
Australia's net debt likely to jump to more than $500 billion as massive coronavirus stimulus unleashed
can we slip a billion in to fix the nbn?
on 31-03-2020 09:46 PM
on 31-03-2020 10:06 PM
Take notice of this guys NZ now has 600 cases and more to come.
Shows how the virus can spead so quickly.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12321261
on 31-03-2020 10:07 PM
Also take notice it is not just old people
on 31-03-2020 10:26 PM