Cruelty to animals, how do you justify it?

[just_me_karen]

One reason frozen meat isn't popular in Indonesia is because most people don't own freezers, or fridges....even many shops done have fridges. People do their shopping daily.

[debra9275]

That's a good point Karen, but they still buy frozen meat from NZ. Maybe the MLA should invest in buying them more freezers lol

[j*oono]

That doesn't make sense to me then Karen.  If they are shopping daily and aren't going to take it home and refreeze it then it doesn't matter if it has already been frozen.

It is the same with buying seafood in the deli from Coles.  I would never take it home and put it in the freezer because Coles received it frozen mostly.

[just_me_karen]

I think it's just the way they shop. In the big cities they have modern supermarkets and fridges at home, but it has huge rural populations who don't...it's a bit like how our grandparents used to shop, they went daily and bought everything fresh.

[*crikey*mate*]

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@j*oono wrote:

One of my earlier jobs was as a pay clerk for Wesfarmers Linley Valley meats.  I used to help prepare the pay roll for the abattoir workers at Wooroloo.  

They had no problem filling the jobs including Halal slaughterman.  I can't see the problem with exporting frozen meat.

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Perhaps.

[bright.ton42]

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@kennedia_nigricans wrote:

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@bright.ton42 wrote:

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@kennedia_nigricans wrote:

they are female cows so it's ok as the abilities of feeling pain of a female cows are different for physiological reasons.

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Are you SERIOUS? 

Where do you get that piece of garbage  from?

To make such a statement you should provide links. 

BTW - cows are usually female.  

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uuhhhmm no, but i am good in thinking myself into someone else. it's freely adapted from Nr. 5 here:

http://whatistherundude.wordpress.com/2012/08/23/20-quotes-from-tony-abbott-to-remind-you-why-he-sho...

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Yes I do see where you're coming from now.  I misunderstood.   Those  Abbott quotes are idiotic.  

Any animal cruelty honestly makes me physically ill and I someetimes despair as so little is done though I

applaud those who actively try to do something about it.  Vampire good for you walking the walk,

being vegetarian and not wearing leather.  I sometimes hate myself for not being like that.  

[freshwater-2 · Accepted solution]

Donna, you really should provide the facts, along with the propaganda.

Crikey, have you been asleep?  This issue was well covered in all the media, graphically.

The Australian community backlash was incredible.

[donnashuggy]

They also like to buy meat warm as it indicates that it has been recently slaughtered, refrigerated meat could be quite old.

[*crikey*mate*]

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@freshwaterbeach wrote:

Donna, you really should provide the facts, along with the propaganda.

Crikey, have you been asleep?  This issue was well covered in all the media, graphically.

The Australian community backlash was incredible.

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No, I haven't. I was in the thick of it, and sourced then, and continue to now, my information from places other than the media.

What you have been shown is a minority of abbotoirs, already under investigation whilst others had already been closed and/or lost their accreditation (ie were no longer being supplied by us). It was made out that nothing was being done and that the Australian Meat Industry were willfully allowing this to happen.

[freshwater-2]

Yes......The Australan meat industry has a lot to answer for.

In my  decades long previous career I spent a lot of time in the region as well as the Middle East and Asia..

The cruelty I witnessed was sickening.