Cyclist and 1Meter rule

[rabbitearbandicoot]

I just saw Current Affair where they showed a car turn left into two cyclist. The car had his left indicator on - looked like he was travelling at very slow speed - the cyclist overtook the car on the car's left and he turned left into them. Was it his fault or the cyclist who overtook on the car's left?

They were talking about making a '0ne meter' law. I cannot see how this will work on many roads. To keep one meter away while overtaking a cyclist or group of cyclist would put you over the centre line in many cases - risking a head on collision??? It would be OK when there is a separate lane but SO MANY roads do not have enough room for it.

Opinions on this rule?? How would it work?  Opinions on the Current Affair accident? 

[ca04]

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This term has aforded myself with material for considerable amusment.

Passing a vehicle on the left is not alowed especially one that is turning left.

Apart from driving heavies & other earthmoving plant I also ride a motorcyce

& a pushbike & one of the first rules of survival is not to put yourself in these

positions.

To use your terminology one could sloganise "undertaking = undertaker".

[freakiness]

They don't have to ride single file.

[purple_haize]

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@freakiness wrote:

They don't have to ride single file.

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Have you been on the roads that wind through the Dandenong Ranges?

Very narrow, if they dont ride in a single file there is no hope of getting past them as it is a double yellow line. They make it very dangerous for other uses of the road. even the police say this.

[carls*world]

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@i-once-was-bump wrote:

If bike riders want bike lanes somuch why don't they use them when available?

I go past an empty bike-way several times a week and it is always empty, no sorry the occasional pedestrain can be seen walking along.

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Watched a youtube video the other day, a cyclist in the UK who IMO was taunting bus drivers. Narrow road, he made the most of every opportunity to pass them whenever he could (stopping to pick up passengers, red lights, he'd slip down in front), VERY close to them, yet abused them every time they passed him again. On reaching the terminus, he approached one driver to give him a serve, misquoting road rules etc. There was however, a purpose built bike path, running paralllel to the road, and when asked why didn't he use that to be safe, his reply was that he didn't HAVE to, that he was allowed on the road.
So obviously to him, his attitude is more important than his personal safety.

[twinkles**stars]

I agree with PH.....the riders can spoil a trip through the mountains.

Traveling along the Monash on Friday (peak hour) there was a stupid motor cyclist wizzing in and out of the traffic overtaking via the emergancy lane. I took all his details....Q'land rego BMW red, blue helmet and leathers, police weren;t the least bit interested.

[freakiness]

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@carls*world wrote:

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@i-once-was-bump wrote:

If bike riders want bike lanes somuch why don't they use them when available?

I go past an empty bike-way several times a week and it is always empty, no sorry the occasional pedestrain can be seen walking along.

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Watched a youtube video the other day, a cyclist in the UK who IMO was taunting bus drivers. Narrow road, he made the most of every opportunity to pass them whenever he could (stopping to pick up passengers, red lights, he'd slip down in front), VERY close to them, yet abused them every time they passed him again. On reaching the terminus, he approached one driver to give him a serve, misquoting road rules etc. There was however, a purpose built bike path, running paralllel to the road, and when asked why didn't he use that to be safe, his reply was that he didn't HAVE to, that he was allowed on the road.
So obviously to him, his attitude is more important than his personal safety.

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Some people would be idiotic fools regardless of the mode of transport they choose  😄

[carls*world]

one of the first rules of survival is not to put yourself in these positions.

THE golden rule.

[***super_nova***]

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@carls*world wrote:

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 There was however, a purpose built bike path, running paralllel to the road, and when asked why didn't he use that to be safe, his reply was that he didn't HAVE to, that he was allowed on the road.

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The problem with many bike path, at least here in Melbourne, is that they were built with little or no consultation with the people who would be using them.  Most are all but useless.  They are too narrow, too rough and in many places have low branches over hanging.  Our lovely off the leash park, which is very narrow but about 1km long, sandwiched between back fences of houses on one side, and factory fences on the other, used to be good safe place to let dogs run free.  Now there is a bike path that is used by very fast bicycles.  It is only a matter of time before a dog will dart across the path and both the rider and dog are in danger of serious injury.  i wonder if the riders are at all aware of the fact that they are in off the leash park.  The path is now connected to others and goes some 20 km (if not more) in the northern direction, and who knows how far south. 

With continuing increase of bike riders on our roads, I do agree, that there must be changes to regulations.  I do not believe in registration  for bikes, but licenses for riders, which would have to be displayed somehow, would be a good idea.  That way if rider does behave badly, he/she could be reported.  I also believe that if there is a good bike path it should be illegal to ride on the road.   It should be illegal to ride abreast on roads with only one lane = on roads where cars are unable to overtake without going on the wrong side of the road.  I think these are just common sense rules, and sadly if people cannot act in common sense then rules must be made into regulations.  Which brings me back to the OP, it should be also common sense not to drive any closer than 1m from a cyclist. 

[rabbitearbandicoot]

I agree ... of course it's common sense to avoid cyclists, guide posts etc.

Some of my original questions STILL have not been answered, like:

1. How would it work?

2. How would it be Policed?

[the_hawk*]

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