on 20-04-2014 10:21 PM
As it's more than 100 days now, it has been suggested that a new thread was needed. The current govt has been breaking promises and telling lies at a rate so fast it's hard to keep up.
This below is worrying, "independent" pffft, as if your own doctor is somehow what? biased, it's ridiculous. So far there is talk of only including people under a certain age 30-35, for now. Remember that if your injured in a car, injured at work or get ill, you too might need to go on the DSP. They have done a similar think in the UK with devastating consequences.
and this is the 2nd time recently where the Govt has referred to work as welfare???? So when you go to work tomorrow (or tuesday), just remember that's welfare.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-20/disability-pensioners-may-be-reassessed-kevin-andrews/5400598
Independent doctors could be called in to reassess disability pensioners, Federal Government says
The Federal Government is considering using independent doctors to examine disability pensioners and assess whether they should continue to receive payments.
Currently family doctors provide reports supporting claims for the Disability Support Pension (DSP).
But Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews is considering a measure that would see independent doctors reassess eligibility.
"We are concerned that where people can work, the best form of welfare is work," Mr Andrews said at a press conference.
on 13-05-2014 11:55 AM
"thanks for posting this Boris -"
"...It’s easy to get the impression Tuesday night’s budget will do anything to restore the nation’s finances so long as it doesn’t hurt the really well off..."
Thank you for the chuckle post, almost as good as reading about evil "chemtrails" lurking overhead, but at least you recognise the need to "restore the nation’s finances"
http://www.macrobusiness.com.au
News for greens and labour oppose taxing wealthy
"With the Greens set to oppose the debt tax, the fate of the measure would rest with the Palmer United Party, which has vowed to oppose all tax increases, and Labor, which has attacked the measure repeatedly."
The ALP and Greens have decided that they will not allow an increase in tax for "the really well off"? that absolutely sounds like they have been abducted, sprayed from overhead, got-at etc, but then again, trade union officials have been known to rake-it-in legally (and fraudulently), and you would not wish to overtax the ALP head office hacks !
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on 13-05-2014 12:21 PM
thanks monman......
http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2014/05/abbotts-budget-class-war/
Reading the above gives the strong impression that this Budget will be more of a display of class warfare rather than a genuine attempt to place the Budget on a more sustainable footing. Indeed, it is interesting to also read from Martin that Tony Abbott’s paid parental leave (PPL) scheme, if implemented as planned, will also become one of the fastest growing areas of federal government expenditure.
So in effect, the Government is seeking to cut back support to the unemployed and the disabled, while on the other hand it intends to lavish up to $50,000 for high income earners to have a child at a whopping cost of $5 billion a year. Surely, if there is a Budget emergency, then cutting back this inequitable monstrosity of a scheme is a good start, along with other lurks like superannuation concessions to high income earners and negative gearing.
In Opposition, wasn’t it the Coalition that always complained about Labor engaging in class warfare?
on 13-05-2014 12:26 PM
@boris1gary wrote:
In Opposition, wasn’t it the Coalition that always complained about Labor engaging in class warfare?
In opposition it was Abbott who was engaged in warfare for 3 years.
Class war, gender war, union war, refugee war.... Perhaps he just hates Aussie people.
on 13-05-2014 01:03 PM
@freakiness wrote:
@boris1gary wrote:In Opposition, wasn’t it the Coalition that always complained about Labor engaging in class warfare?
In opposition it was Abbott who was engaged in warfare for 3 years.
Class war, gender war, union war, refugee war.... Perhaps he just hates Aussie people.
yes, he and his fellow Looters Party don't seem to like the public very much at all. Public education, public transport, public health, public ownership...
on 13-05-2014 02:33 PM
"Thanks" B1G, and not a C&P line, gosh !.
I guess you still do not read all of your numerous C&P's because you would have found within your one this:
"The welfare problem is by and large an ageing population problem. And it is a problem that will be much better served with a bit more context and a lot less of political parties blaming each other, the unemployed or those on disability pensions".
Notice the part "better served with a bit more context and a lot less of political parties blaming each other"
Context is good: " it intends to lavish up to $50,000 for high income earners to have a child at a whopping cost of $5 billion a year." B1G, what exactly do you dislike about the funding associated with the scheme (which I find over-generous) bearing in mind that only 2% of the female working population earn $100,000 or more?
"In Opposition, wasn’t it the Coalition that always complained about Labor engaging in class warfare? " Yes, inbetween observing the Circus warfare. However, one would have to be now perplexed at this apparent ALP reverse class warfare tactic of objecting to increasing the tax that high earners would have to pay.
Now a repeat of some of Alan Kohler's observations via the ABC, would it be better if they were from the "Independent ABC"?
Plugging the revenue gap means higher taxes
As I wrote last year (Those income tax cuts aren't looking so good now, December 18; Income tax has to go up, December 16), Australia's tax revenue is too low for the level of government spending that's locked in, largely as a result of the ageing of the population as well as the extra spending agreed for education and disability.
Indirect taxes (GST and excise) are growing more slowly than GDP and, given its structure, increasing the GST rate is almost impossible. The rate of excise could be re-indexed but that would take too long and wouldn't be enough.
The permanent income tax cuts and increased middle-class welfare given by John Howard during the temporary mining boom were reckless and now need to be reversed by his Coalition successor. The Labor Party didn't have the courage, the competence or the economic conditions to do it, so the Coalition must clean up its own mistakes and restore the revenue.
So yes, Australia's fiscal problem is all about elections, past and future, and promises made in the heat of anxiety and then broken or regretted.
More specifically, the budget now suffers from a decade of unstinting fiscal incompetence, starting with Howard and Costello's income tax cuts and middle-class welfare increases; Rudd, Gillard and Swan's spending and general ineptitude; and finally, last year's ridiculous promises by Tony Abbott for more tax cuts and more spending.
The next 10 years will be spent cleaning up the mess of the past 10 years.
Alan Kohler is the editor-in-chief of Business and Eureka Report, as well as finance presenter on ABC News.
on 13-05-2014 02:39 PM
@monman12 wrote:"Thanks" B1G, and not a C&P line, gosh !.
I guess you still do not read all of your numerous C&P's because you would have found within your one this:
"The welfare problem is by and large an ageing population problem. And it is a problem that will be much better served with a bit more context and a lot less of political parties blaming each other, the unemployed or those on disability pensions".
Notice the part "better served with a bit more context and a lot less of political parties blaming each other"
Context is good: " it intends to lavish up to $50,000 for high income earners to have a child at a whopping cost of $5 billion a year." B1G, what exactly do you dislike about the funding associated with the scheme (which I find over-generous) bearing in mind that only 2% of the female working population earn $100,000 or more?
"In Opposition, wasn’t it the Coalition that always complained about Labor engaging in class warfare? " Yes, inbetween observing the Circus warfare. However, one would have to be now perplexed at this apparent ALP reverse class warfare tactic of objecting to increasing the tax that high earners would have to pay.
Now a repeat of some of Alan Kohler's observations via the ABC, would it be better if they were from the "Independent ABC"?
Plugging the revenue gap means higher taxes
As I wrote last year (Those income tax cuts aren't looking so good now, December 18; Income tax has to go up, December 16), Australia's tax revenue is too low for the level of government spending that's locked in, largely as a result of the ageing of the population as well as the extra spending agreed for education and disability.
Indirect taxes (GST and excise) are growing more slowly than GDP and, given its structure, increasing the GST rate is almost impossible. The rate of excise could be re-indexed but that would take too long and wouldn't be enough.
The permanent income tax cuts and increased middle-class welfare given by John Howard during the temporary mining boom were reckless and now need to be reversed by his Coalition successor. The Labor Party didn't have the courage, the competence or the economic conditions to do it, so the Coalition must clean up its own mistakes and restore the revenue.
So yes, Australia's fiscal problem is all about elections, past and future, and promises made in the heat of anxiety and then broken or regretted.
More specifically, the budget now suffers from a decade of unstinting fiscal incompetence, starting with Howard and Costello's income tax cuts and middle-class welfare increases; Rudd, Gillard and Swan's spending and general ineptitude; and finally, last year's ridiculous promises by Tony Abbott for more tax cuts and more spending.
The next 10 years will be spent cleaning up the mess of the past 10 years.
Alan Kohler is the editor-in-chief of Business and Eureka Report, as well as finance presenter on ABC News.
they don't read the C&P themselves, but expect everyone else too
on 13-05-2014 04:25 PM
don't "expect" any such thing but thanks for posting.
21-05-2014 08:01 AM - edited 21-05-2014 08:02 AM
well, it's happened already. Consumers are spooked and no-one is spending, not a good situation for our economy or any of us
on 21-05-2014 08:23 AM
on 21-05-2014 11:58 AM
well, it's happened already. Consumers are spooked and no-one is spending, not a good situation for our economy or any of us
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Of course consumers will stop spending. We are told to live within our means and so we are. What did government and business expect?
Thanks for the link Debra.
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This is typical tactics of ABBOTT and Hockey's lot.....they will claim that they have 'saved' money for us by sabotaging our spendings/expenditure using 'FEAR TACTICS'!!!.....yet they are negligent in ANY attempt in acting to improve our revenue....err, like JOBS