on โ20-04-2014 10:21 PM
As it's more than 100 days now, it has been suggested that a new thread was needed. The current govt has been breaking promises and telling lies at a rate so fast it's hard to keep up.
This below is worrying, "independent" pffft, as if your own doctor is somehow what? biased, it's ridiculous. So far there is talk of only including people under a certain age 30-35, for now. Remember that if your injured in a car, injured at work or get ill, you too might need to go on the DSP. They have done a similar think in the UK with devastating consequences.
and this is the 2nd time recently where the Govt has referred to work as welfare???? So when you go to work tomorrow (or tuesday), just remember that's welfare.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-20/disability-pensioners-may-be-reassessed-kevin-andrews/5400598
Independent doctors could be called in to reassess disability pensioners, Federal Government says
The Federal Government is considering using independent doctors to examine disability pensioners and assess whether they should continue to receive payments.
Currently family doctors provide reports supporting claims for the Disability Support Pension (DSP).
But Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews is considering a measure that would see independent doctors reassess eligibility.
"We are concerned that where people can work, the best form of welfare is work," Mr Andrews said at a press conference.
on โ13-06-2014 09:20 PM
@boris1gary wrote:
@nero_wulf wrote:
Any evidence of this "revolution" that Labor wants, thanks nerowulf, funniest thing I have seen today.
There is this, it's very very funny, I giggle everytime i see it, thanks again nerowulf.
on โ13-06-2014 09:25 PM
"Is there any hysterical gibbering in this thread? "
Lots of it, jn the form of numerous C&P's from "citizen journalists/bloggers inhabiting any handy self styled independent (red?) online rag.
nษฅยบษพ
on โ13-06-2014 09:26 PM
I don't think so, monman
on โ13-06-2014 09:46 PM
this is serious stuff and the questions put to the young salvos worker are pathetic, she keeps her calm though - brave woman. senator macdonald should be ashamed of himself.
Salvation Army helper tells inquiry of 'rape dungeon'
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/salvation-army-helper-tells-inquiry-of-rape-du...
on โ13-06-2014 09:51 PM
"Any evidence of this "revolution" that Labor wants,"
"Shorten told British Labour MPs that โthe supreme challenge of office is to recognise our revolutionary moment when it arrives, and to have the courage to seize it, wholly and boldlyโ. Reducing the power of unions inside Labor is Shortenโs revolutionary moment. It remains to be seen whether he has the courage to seize it."
2014. En Passant, ALP, Australian Labor Party, Capitalist workers' party, Democratic Party.
"The real question is how to build a workersโ party committed to socialist revolution. That task for the revolutionary left involves becoming the place those people in Labor and near it and even more so outside it who want to build a better world turn to and join in that fight."
That might suffice. I do like the part: "Reducing the power of unions inside Labor is Shortenโs revolutionary moment."
nษฅยบษพ
โ13-06-2014 09:53 PM - edited โ13-06-2014 09:54 PM
Scarping the bottom of the barrel for news articleas are C&P's from the Daily Telegraph and the CEC.
on โ13-06-2014 10:02 PM
@boris1gary wrote:
@monman12 wrote:I notice that the SMH article once again is from a non journalist, and one that is overly biased, perfect for the AIMN or any other self-styled independent (of balance?) online rag. The author : Andrew Leigh the shadow assistant treasurer.
Gosh.
nษฅยบษพ
independent, just like yourself.
how does being a labor member make him less qualified to comment on economics.
an economics professor is more qualified than a journalist to comment on economics.
on โ13-06-2014 10:45 PM
"how does being a labor member make him less qualified to comment on economics." It does not, but that was not the point. Hint:
"a non journalist, and one that is overly biased," + Andrew Leigh the shadow assistant treasure.
If you wish to C&P a plausible economics expert leave politicians aside and post ones with less biased opinions. e.g. Alan Kohler.
Alan Kohler is the editor-in-chief of Business and Eureka Report, as well as finance presenter on ABC News. Some excerpts from his past articles:
"The permanent income tax cuts and increased middle-class welfare given by John Howard during the temporary mining boom were reckless and now need to be reversed by his Coalition successor. The Labor Party didn't have the courage, the competence or the economic conditions to do it, so the Coalition must clean up its own mistakes and restore the revenue."
"And Tony Abbott made things worse with yet another bunch of absurd election promises: more middle-class welfare (paid parental leave) and more tax cuts (carbon tax and mining tax), on top of the unpromised and unnecessary $8.8bn payment to the Reserve Bank."
"So yes, Australia's fiscal problem is all about elections, past and future, and promises made in the heat of anxiety and then broken or regretted."
"More specifically, the budget now suffers from a decade of unstinting fiscal incompetence, starting with Howard and Costello's income tax cuts and middle-class welfare increases; Rudd, Gillard and Swan's spending and general ineptitude; and finally, last year's ridiculous promises by Tony Abbott for more tax cuts and more spending."
"The next 10 years will be spent cleaning up the mess of the past 10 years."
That is the sort of economics expert you should read (sorry) and quote (C&P sans comments even) not a shadow minister organ grinder that is from your side of politics, and with the party line to grind out.
nษฅยบษพ
โ13-06-2014 10:50 PM - edited โ13-06-2014 10:51 PM
No-one should be telling others where they 'should' be quoting their C&P's from. That is not how discussion boards/forums work.
on โ13-06-2014 10:54 PM
what's that? you think he trots out a party line without analysis?
any chance he might use his qualification to contribute to the development of his party's policy?
talk about one eyed.