on 20-04-2014 10:21 PM
As it's more than 100 days now, it has been suggested that a new thread was needed. The current govt has been breaking promises and telling lies at a rate so fast it's hard to keep up.![]()
This below is worrying, "independent" pffft, as if your own doctor is somehow what? biased, it's ridiculous. So far there is talk of only including people under a certain age 30-35, for now. Remember that if your injured in a car, injured at work or get ill, you too might need to go on the DSP. They have done a similar think in the UK with devastating consequences.
and this is the 2nd time recently where the Govt has referred to work as welfare???? So when you go to work tomorrow (or tuesday), just remember that's welfare.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-20/disability-pensioners-may-be-reassessed-kevin-andrews/5400598
Independent doctors could be called in to reassess disability pensioners, Federal Government says
The Federal Government is considering using independent doctors to examine disability pensioners and assess whether they should continue to receive payments.
Currently family doctors provide reports supporting claims for the Disability Support Pension (DSP).
But Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews is considering a measure that would see independent doctors reassess eligibility.
"We are concerned that where people can work, the best form of welfare is work," Mr Andrews said at a press conference.
12-08-2014 09:01 PM - edited 12-08-2014 09:03 PM
It would seem SN that your knowledge of aircraft operations is on a par with those of P007!
$ 50,000 per hour in VIP jet fuel is absolute nonsense.
As you have not bothered to research I will assist you a little:
Cruising speed for the B737-700 BBJ is 472Kts (RAAF leased VIP business jet)
Fuel consumption approximately 2.5 gallons/nm
Current cost of jet fuel $3.10/gallon (Australia)
The above will give you a cruising cost of around $3,658 per hour.
I wonder what the operating fuel costs of those evil chemtraiing aircraft are?, the ones that operate secretly in broad daylight?
I think where (from past experience here) those posting aircraft operational and performance details are concerned Descartes summed it up well:
It is only prudent never to place complete confidence in that by which we have even once been deceived.
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on 12-08-2014 10:48 PM
ref:
I wonder what the operating fuel costs of those evil chemtraiing aircraft are?, the ones that operate secretly in broad daylight?
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not much secret spraying/chemtrailing of late:
ref http://realnewsaustralia.com/2013/05/14/look-up-speak-up-the-chemtrail-issue/
see comments to follow article, here's some:
on 13-08-2014 12:46 AM
a day ago
‘Anyone can see the job search scheme is unworkable’. Computer programmer Bill Malkin at home in Tranmere in Adelaide yesterday. Picture: James Elsby Source: News Corp Australia
EMPLOYMENT Minister Eric Abetz might have to change his email address if government’s plans to force unemployed welfare recipients to conduct 40 job searches a month go ahead.
That’s because a plucky programmer from Adelaide by the name of Bill Malkin has set out to pillory the proposed changes.
He will do so by starting a crowd-funded project to build an internet application that will automatically generate and email job applications to potential employers on behalf of jobseekers. The bad news for Senator Abetz is that the program, which has been dubbed Spambludger, will also automatically send the tens of thousands of job applications made each day directly to his inbox. Mr Malkin, who is currently unemployed, said he decided to put together the crowd-funded campaign to highlight the ridiculousness of the Coalition government’s proposed changes to unemployment benefits.
Another aim of the campaign will be to show how easily the new changes could be gamed.
Under the proposed overhaul of unemployment benefits jobseekers will be expected to apply for at least 40 positions each month. Fit and healthy jobseekers aged under 30 will also have to sign up for 25 hours of Work for the Dole for at least half of each year.
“Anyone can see that this scheme is just unworkable,” Mr Malkin told The Australian.
“There are only a fixed number of job vacancies in the market but there are a huge number of unemployed people looking for jobs. Simply putting in scores of job applications won’t make a difference. It will annoy the hell out of businesses, it won’t increase the number of jobs, or really help jobseekers.
“It will just bog down the whole process.”
Spambludger will work by scanning jobs site Seek and the Yellow Pages online directory for businesses that contain key words being sought by jobseekers.
The program will then generate applications based on the appropriate requirements of the job and automatically email them to prospective employers.
The application will also include a jobseeker’s resume, gender, age, blood group, sexual preference, political and football club affiliations and shoe size. Two job applications generated each day will be sent to employers to fulfil the 40-per-month quota being forced on jobseekers.
However, users of the app will also be able to set up a maximum daily limit of 10,000 applications, each of which will be copied to Senator Abetz’s email inbox so he can “marvel at the success of his scheme”, Mr Malkin said.
Mr Malkin, 61, has worked in the IT industry for more than 30 years. He also works as a volunteer at A Gesture, a not-for-profit social enterprise that trains the unemployed so they are job-ready.
Spambludger has been listed on the crowd-funding website Pozible with a target to raise $30,000 before its October 3 deadline.
Funds raised will be used to keep Mr Malkin fed and housed while he writes the program. If the government is unable to implement the changes to the Work for the Dole program Mr Malkin said all unused funds would be refunded.
At close of business yesterday Spambludger had raised $253.

on 13-08-2014 07:12 AM
http://www.immi.gov.au/Work/Pages/skilled-occupations-lists/csol.aspx
........just can't for the life of me work out why there are no jobs available in 'The Clever Country'......

on 13-08-2014 08:11 AM
on 13-08-2014 08:15 AM
yes! I know am3......I accessed it thru an 'Alternative' and free news media site.
Cheers for the Alternative Media ![]()
on 13-08-2014 08:20 AM
Here's another article that you might be interested in as well
about 8 hours ago
THE Abbott government is weighing up a shift in strategy on its paid parental leave scheme to help overcome Senate objections to its wider agenda, scaling back the controversial policy to avoid defeat in the upper house.
The Australian has been told of discussions within the government on substantial amendments to the policy that could cut the cost and counter accusations that the “gold-plated” scheme is too generous to the wealthy.
The plans are aimed at clearing the way for a Senate deal as the government struggles to legislate unpopular budget savings when it is also promising to spend $5 billion a year on Tony Abbott’s signature policy.
The rethink comes as ministers give ground on other disputes, including a divisive $7 fee on visits to the GP and billions of dollars in savings on university funding.
Health Minister Peter Dutton signalled the scope for compromise yesterday by declaring he was seriously considering changes to the GP co-payment in negotiations with the Australian Medical Association.
Pensioners would be exempt from some of the co-payments if the minister embraces the AMA plan over the coming weeks, but he would have to sacrifice much of the $3.5bn in revenue originally expected from the fee.
As Joe Hockey heads to Perth to step up negotiations on the budget — meeting senator Dio Wang of the Palmer United Party after a meeting with party leader Clive Palmer in Brisbane last night — there is a growing effort to consider policy changes before parliament resumes on August 26.
The PPL scheme, which would provide new mothers with six months’ leave on full pay, is seen within the government as a more intractable problem, with ministers repeatedly attempting to persuade the Prime Minister to abandon or delay the huge spending because it undermines the wider message on saving taxpayer funds.
One option being canvassed is to scale back payments to wealth ier new parents but develop new programs to help with childcare towards the end of the year.
While the government has poured cold water on a Productivity Commission suggestion that it redirect some of the PPL funds into childcare, similar options are now being discussed as a way to offer a broader policy to families with young children.
Government sources said that without heavy amendments the PPL scheme would have to be jettisoned like the reforms to Section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act, which Mr Abbott dropped last week.
“It’s a bit like 18C — it’s going to be quietly shelved,” said one senior Liberal. “There’s no way it’s going to get through the Senate. The Prime Minister has got to be pragmatic.”
Labor opposes the PPL scheme and all eight crossbench senators have rejected it in its current form. While the government hoped to secure votes from the Greens, that party’s deputy leader, Adam Bandt, said the government had failed so far to meet the conditions for Greens support.
“The wisest thing would be to drop it very quickly,” said a senior Liberal.
The Prime Minister has rebuffed private pleas to adjust the policy beyond his decision in April to lower the income threshold for the payments from $150,000 to $100,000 to ensure that no new parent would receive more than $50,000 during 26 weeks of leave.
Public calls for changes to the scheme have made it more difficult to get an outcome because of concerns Mr Abbott would be giving ground in the face of pressure from backbenchers.
No cabinet ministers are enthusiastic supporters of the policy and many see a wider childcare package as a more successful policy but they accept that the decision is up to Mr Abbott.
“My view is we’d get a huge tick for it. We’d actually look like we were leading from the front,” said one Liberal.
“There’s no way now we’ll get the PPL scheme through the Senate, whereas we’d get a good childcare package through.”
Family First senator Bob Day said he was willing to consider changes to the scheme but his talks with the government had made it clear few had any eagerness for the PPL policy in its current form.
“They mention it but there’s no enthusiasm,” he told The Australian yesterday, in the wake of his meeting with the Treasurer in recent weeks.
“When someone’s not enthusiastic about pushing something you can tell they might drop it.”
Democratic Labour Party senator John Madigan said the government would be better to start from scratch rather than try to adjust the PPL policy.
“It was badly conceived. You can’t make strawberry jam out of effluent,” he said.
South Australian independent senator Nick Xenophon told Mr Hockey at their meeting on July 30 he did not support the proposed scheme. “What I do support is that the resources should be going into more affordable childcare.”
Palmer United Party senator Jacqui Lambie told Mr Hockey during their meeting that PUP would not vote for the PPL scheme in its current form.
Senator Lambie said the government’s $5bn would be better spent reducing childcare costs to enable more women to go back to work.
The money should also be directed into providing up to 20 hours a week of early learning support for four-year-olds and giving pensioners an extra $150 a fortnight.
After a meeting with Treasury officials yesterday in her Canberra office, Senator Lambie said the government should also examine funding social workers in schools.
Highlighting the scope for compromise on the GP co-payment, Mr Dutton said yesterday he was “seriously” examining a proposal to exempt pensioners and others from the new fee.
The minister has asked government officials to analyse the proposal from the AMA but he also insisted on the need to apply the fee.
“We’re seriously having a look at what they’re suggesting,” Mr Dutton said in a radio interview, but he added that he would also need to take the views of cross-bench senators into account.
“Most of the debate is about whether or not particular groups of people are eligible for exemption. I think that’s more the debate than the $7.”
The comments suggested the government was more willing to negotiate the concessions rather than the level of the co-payment, giving that the Australian plan is lower than the $17.50 set in New Zealand and the Commission of Audit recommendation of $15.
AMA president Brian Owler put the proposal to Mr Dutton in recent weeks but has not released the plan publicly, choosing instead to wait for further meeting with the minister in the next few weeks.
on 13-08-2014 09:53 AM
13-08-2014 10:15 AM - edited 13-08-2014 10:16 AM
I don't believe Abbott gives a rats about women or the paid parental leave scheme. I think it's all about him showing off in his role as minister for women and ultimately having control of "women's" affairs so he can sell the idea that he isn't a misogynist..
on 13-08-2014 11:28 AM
Yes agreed.
Abbott cares as much about women as he does about youth, pensioners and the unemployed.
Chem trails all over Queensland. Herveybay Gladstone, thier not only taxing us out of existence. They are poisioning us and our children , our soil and food supplies. This is just the tipof the iceberg . WAKE UP. Ask yourself ….how many people and loved ones are getting sick. More than usual. And we like sheep are led to slaughter. The media circus is silent on chem trails. And are feeding the masses, propaganda and lies. Oh well just ask Oprah Winfrey or dr phill. They have all the answers….don’t worry , the Abbott govt slogan should be……in Aussie we will look after you…thier going to f… Us over. Just ask the public sector workers. That Newman and the truss puppets are planning …hold onto ya hats …it’s only just beginning …….look up
March 11, 2014 at 5:13 pm
For the past month the Dandenong ranges in Melbourne have been targeted by up to four black helicopters a night, at 500ft spraying. Each day we are suffering flu symptoms that do not go away and I have had this for over 12 years; now it’s worse.
Today there were five jets at probably five miles high in just over 30 seconds at their average of 500kmh. We are not in any flight path. i am angry, with knowledge and ready to fight this with anyone so prepared.
"I myself have seen chemtrails on a few occasions. Even shot a video on my way home of one in action. There was a big weather front on it’s way in from the west and i noticed the clouds looking strange. Odd colours and patterns that sort of thing. As I pulled over I saw a plane dumping it’s payload right across the path of the weather system. It then did another two runs each time spraying who knows what in the storms path and at angles ordinary passenger planes wouldn’t fly on. In addition the area in which this plane was spraying isn’t a flight path of commercial passenger planes. It was however right around the area of the Amberley Airforce Base.
Weather modification flights out of Amberley are not uncommon. A friend of mine who’s uncle visits the base for work has seen first hand “kitted up planes” pre-flight prior to the devastating Queensland floods and he wasn’t talking munition payloads under the wings either.
The truth of the matter is 99% of the time we don’t know exactly what is being sprayed on us. When airlines, governments and weather modification companies are asked in writing to disclose their methods and more importantly the ingredients of the aerosols the answer is either silence or a response explaining that the trails seen are just contrails. Their public policy of denial is evident.
Sounds about right considering the repercussions they face if its made public that all the heavy metals and other toxic substances falling down on us are edging us closer and closer to a global health crisis.
The U.S government has a long history of experimenting on their own military personnel and even worse the general public all in the name of “science” or “national security”. There have even been papers written by military personnel for the USAF discussing using weather as a weapon.
So what makes us think they wouldn’t do it again? Only this time it could very well be done under the auspices of saving the planet from global warming or is it climate change now?"