Diary of our stinking Govt.

[boris1gary]

As it's more than 100 days now, it has been suggested that a new thread was needed.  The current govt has been breaking promises and telling lies at a rate so fast it's hard to keep up.

This below is worrying, "independent" pffft, as if your own doctor is somehow what? biased, it's ridiculous. So far there is talk of only including people under a certain age 30-35, for now. Remember that if your injured in a car, injured at work or get ill, you too might need to go on the DSP. They have done a similar think in the UK with devastating consequences.

and this is the 2nd time recently where the Govt has referred to work as welfare???? So when you go to work tomorrow (or tuesday), just remember that's welfare.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-20/disability-pensioners-may-be-reassessed-kevin-andrews/5400598

Independent doctors could be called in to reassess disability pensioners, Federal Government says

The Federal Government is considering using independent doctors to examine disability pensioners and assess whether they should continue to receive payments.

Currently family doctors provide reports supporting claims for the Disability Support Pension (DSP).

But Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews is considering a measure that would see independent doctors reassess eligibility.

"We are concerned that where people can work, the best form of welfare is work," Mr Andrews said at a press conference.

[boris1gary]

what a disgrace, the NSW state govt are environmental vandals and the shooters party are a dangerous mob of idiots

Family of Glen Turner appalled at proposed changes to land clearing laws

The family of an NSW environment compliance officer killed in the line of duty, Glen Turner, has decried potential changes to land clearing laws and says it is "appalled" by a push to reduce penalties for impeding the work of those enforcing them.

In an emotional submission to an independent review of land clearing laws ordered by the state government, the Turner family also criticises the responses of senior Nationals MPs to Mr Turner's death in July after he was allegedly shot by Moree farmer Ian Turnbull, who has been charged with murder.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/family-of-glen-turner-appalled-at-proposed-changes-to-land-clearing-laws-2...

[boris1gary]

is this idiot serious

Tony Abbott plans visit to Ukraine and promises to send military equipment: Petro Poroshenko

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbott-plans-visit-to-ukraine-and-promise...

 Peter Hasienko printed in German by anderweltonline.com, 26 July 2014.

It is worth noting that holes straight away started to be blow in the western media’s version of events. As we go to press, a German aviation expert has examined the pictures of plane fragments available online and asserted his strong belief that the plane was shot down by the two Ukrainian fighter jets known to have been in the skies at the same time as the Malaysian aircraft.


First, I was amazed at how few photos can be found from the wreckage with Google. All are in low resolution, except one: the fragment of the cockpit below the window on the pilot’s side. This image, however, is shocking. In Washington, you can now hear views expressed of a “potentially tragic error/accident” regarding MH17. Given this particular cockpit image, it does not surprise me at all.

The facts speak clear and loud and are beyond the realm of speculation: the cockpit shows traces of shelling! You can see the entry and exit holes. The edge of a portion of the holes is bent inwards. These are the smaller holes, round and clean, showing the entry points most likely that of a 30mm-calibre projectile. 

The edge of the other, the larger and slightly frayed exit holes showing shreds of metal pointing produced by the same calibre projectiles. Moreover, it is evident that at these exit holes of the outer layer of the double-aluminium reinforced structure are shredded or bent – outwardly! Furthermore, minor cuts can be seen, all bent outward, which indicate that shrapnel had forcefully exited through the outer skin from the inside of the cockpit. The open rivets are also bent outward.

In sifting through the available images one thing stands out: all wreckage of the sections behind the cockpit are largely intact, except for the fact that only fragments of the aircraft remained. Only the cockpit part shows these peculiar marks of destruction. This leaves the examiner with an important clue. This aircraft was not hit by a missile in the central portion. The destruction is limited to the cockpit area ...

So what could have happened? Russia recently published radar recordings that confirm at least one Ukrainian SU25 in close proximity to MH17. This corresponds with the statement of the now missing Spanish controller ‘Carlos’, who had seen two Ukrainian fighter aircraft in the immediate vicinity of MH17. 

If we now consider the armament of a typical SU25 we learn this: it is equipped with a double-barrelled 30mm gun, type GSh-302 / AO-17A, equipped with a 250-round magazine of anti-tank incendiary shells and splinter-explosive shells (dum-dum), arranged in alternating order. 

The cockpit of the MH17 has evidently been fired at from both sides: the entry and exit holes are found on the same fragment of its cockpit segment! ...

If you listen to the voices from Washington now who speak of a “potentially tragic error / accident”, all that remains is the question of what might have been the nature of this ‘mistake’ perpetrated here. I am not given to hover long in the realm of speculation, but would like to invite others to consider the following: The MH17 looked similar in its tricolor design to that that of the Russian President’s plane. The plane with President Putin on board was at the same time ‘near’ Malaysia MH17. In aviation circles, ‘close’ would be considered to be anywhere between 150 to 200 miles. Also, in this context we might consider the deposition of Ms Tymoshenko, who wanted to shoot President Putin with a Kalashnikov.

But that this remains pure speculation. The shelling of the cockpit of air Malaysia MH17, however, is definitely not speculation.

(Original article by Peter Hasienko printed in German by anderweltonline.com, 26 July 2014. Translated and reproduced as ‘Revelations of German pilot: shocking analysis of the “shooting down” of Malaysian MH17. “Aircraft was not hit by a missile”’ on globalresearch ca , 30 July 2014)

http://www.cpgb-ml.org/index.php?secName=proletarian&subName=display&art=1052

[li.vish]

Hello, everyone. This discussion is getting a little heated. Could we please communicate with a more civil tone. Thanks!

[tall_bearded01]

So the theory is that 2 Ukraine fighters mistakenly thought it was Russian Military aircraft which had intruded into Ukrainian airspace and shot it down with, wait for it, cannon fire.

First problem, to engage an aircraft with cannon fire you actually have to be in visual range, which means they would have known it was a commercial airliner. Therefore it would not have been a tragic accident, which the rumoured unnamed source in Washington seem to have got there nickers in a twist over, but a deliberate act.

Secondly, when dealing with ground to air missiles how do they detonate? I’ll give a clue – proximity fuse.

Thirdly, if this is such a clear cut case of an air to air cannon fire shoot down, why did both the Russians and the separatist go to such lengths to close off and contaminate the crash  site. That is, if this was such a clear cut case of cannon fire, then the both the Russians and separatists would be falling over each other to get independent experts to the crash site to verify that that was the case.  

Finally, having read article and the source documents, when you cut through the propaganda, I could not find one verifiable fact or named source.

As a piece of fiction I give it one star out of five.

[debra9275]

have to laugh at this one.

abbott complaining that the media isn't 'giving him a fair go"" 

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/give-me-more-credit-tony-abbott-pleads-with-th...

[fourandsixpants]

I agree with the words 'Washington' and 'deliberate act'

Someone is going to an awful lot of trouble to pump out a lot of confusing misinformation about this.....I am just wondering how cheesed off 'they' are that they couldn't use same or similar excuse as was used previously to make the whole affair 'disappear' ...........but then the Southern Ocean is quite a long way from this site where this particular passenger jet was deliberately brought down.

[tall_bearded01]

Sorry Paints but I prefer to formulate my opinions on an assessment of the facts, and in my opinion, an article in a propaganda sheet, which relies solely on the opinion of an unnamed expert and unsubstantiated rumour, in my mind, doesn’t qualify.

So I leave it Boris can come up with something more substantive, and if she can’t, then fiction best describes what been presented thus far.

[***super_nova***]

[monman12]

By the mid-1980s, however, it became the consensus of both major parties that the concept of ‘free’ tertiary education in Australia was untenable due to the increasing participation rate.Ironically, a subsequent Labor Government (the Bob Hawke/Paul Keating Government) was responsible for gradually re-introducing fees for University study In a relatively innovative move, however, the method by which fees were re-introduced proved to be a system accepted by both Federal political parties and consequently is still in place today.

There was a specialist course introduced much later that enabled online authors to reduce their images to a data size that did not require  unnecessary bandwidth (or a NBN).  It was very poorly attended.

[boris1gary]

tallbeardedone, I am not an airline expert, nor am i a retired Colonel but then again, i don't believe anyone on cs is

Now read this (also German) article by defence expert Bernd Biederman, who offers equally sound reasons why the
shooting down could NOT have been from a surface to air missile:

‘ the shooting down of the Malaysian
Boeing on July 17 in the Eastern Ukraine “could not have been hit by a
surface to air defense missile” .

This is the assessment of retired Colonel Bernd Biedermann in an
article for the daily newspaper published in Berlin “new Germany”
(Thursday edition). Had splinters from a surface to air missile hit
the plane, it would have immediately caught fire, argues the NVA
anti-aircraft missile specialist. His reasoning is because of the
“enormous frictional heat that the splinters generate on penetrating
the fuselage. A single splinter contains the same kinetic energy as a
40-ton freight car hitting the buffers at 60 kilometers per hour.” In
the case of the Malaysian Boeing, scattered fires had broken out after
the impact with the ground, because hot debris from the aircraft had
come in contact with combustible materials.

Biedermann is familiar with Soviet and Russian air defense technology,
he led units in the duty officer system in East Germany and taught at
the Military Academy in the field of anti-aircraft missile troops.’

http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2014/07/28/new-mh17-sensation-german-experts-point-finger-at-ukrainian-a...