on 20-04-2014 10:21 PM
As it's more than 100 days now, it has been suggested that a new thread was needed. The current govt has been breaking promises and telling lies at a rate so fast it's hard to keep up.
This below is worrying, "independent" pffft, as if your own doctor is somehow what? biased, it's ridiculous. So far there is talk of only including people under a certain age 30-35, for now. Remember that if your injured in a car, injured at work or get ill, you too might need to go on the DSP. They have done a similar think in the UK with devastating consequences.
and this is the 2nd time recently where the Govt has referred to work as welfare???? So when you go to work tomorrow (or tuesday), just remember that's welfare.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-20/disability-pensioners-may-be-reassessed-kevin-andrews/5400598
Independent doctors could be called in to reassess disability pensioners, Federal Government says
The Federal Government is considering using independent doctors to examine disability pensioners and assess whether they should continue to receive payments.
Currently family doctors provide reports supporting claims for the Disability Support Pension (DSP).
But Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews is considering a measure that would see independent doctors reassess eligibility.
"We are concerned that where people can work, the best form of welfare is work," Mr Andrews said at a press conference.
on 27-12-2014 03:28 PM
on 27-12-2014 03:30 PM
don't speak too soon, I bet the same happens in the Lib party. no-one likes Tony, not even his own team
Same storyline - different title Debbie
Hmmmm Rudd/Gillard tanties - pot, kettle black lol
27-12-2014 03:32 PM - edited 27-12-2014 03:34 PM
oh well, maybe it's our turn to have a say after all those years of threads about Juliar
but hey that was only one little lie ( if it was even a lie)
tones has broken the record within 12 months lol
on 27-12-2014 06:47 PM
@paintsew007 wrote:I wonder if Tony Abbott will renounce his dual citizenship in the New Year?
The year was 1981. Unguarded Moment by The Church was at the top of the charts. A different unguarded moment in the church saw Pope John Paul II rushed to hospital, following an assassination attempt. That same year, Anthony John Abbott began at Oxford university on a Rhodes Scholarship, perhaps already dreaming of the prime ministership.
Now it’s 2014. Nicki Minaj’s Anaconda is at the top of the charts. The headlines are dominated by fonts. And reports have emerged that a Sunshine Coast blogger, Tony Magrathea, is attempting to bring down Tony Abbott by proving that he was a dual citizen, and thus ineligible to be elected to parliament under section 44(i)of the Australian Constitution.
The meat in the Abbott “birther” conspiracy pie is this: Abbott became an Australian citizen in 1981, but nowhere has it been reported as to whether he relinquished his British citizenship prior to 1994, when he was elected in theWarringah by-election (except where it has).
Both Abbott’s office and the British Home Office have refused freedom of information requests for documents detailing whether Abbott really renounced his British citizenship, on the basis that it is a personal document in the case of the former, and that they are not legally permitted to in the latter. The prime minister’s office has dismissed Magrathea’s claims outright.
Nonetheless, he still wants to see the documents. “[Abbott] has to tell the people when he renounced his British citizenship”, Magrathea wrote on the blog Independent Australia. Until he does, the theory goes, we can’t be sure that he relinquished it.
Even if Abbott were somehow forced to stand down, he could easily renounce his citizenship and stand again in a by-election, likely winning re-election with an increased margin. But in the minds of those pushing the dual citizen barrow the consequences for Abbott if they can prove their case are far more dire: he would be stripped of his pension, forced to repay salaries earned and allowances received, and imprisoned.
Finally, as he was an illegitimate prime minister, decisions he made while in the position would be reversed, wouldn’t they? The left would stand triumphant, the war won on a technicality, without a single shot fired in anger.
The Abbott birther story is no longer only being championed by fringe blogs, but by people previously associated with more mainstream groups like March Australia, and has been reported in mainstream media outlets. This “foreign-born politicians” meme recurs every now and again – even the rightwing Australian Protectionist party took a crack back in 2011.
Always keen for a cheeky conspiracy chuckle, I thought I’d fill the citizenship-evidence vacuum with some evidence of my own. I threw together a hastily mocked-up Photoshop job, pasting Tony Abbott’s head and signature onto apicture of a British passport from Google image search, then shared it on Twitter.
Within a couple of hours I was overwhelmed by the number of people who seized on my obvious fake as damning evidence. At best, I’d expected a few laughs. I proffered increasingly preposterous proofs, which produced similar results.
Why are people so willing to believe this stuff? Like the Obama birth certificate crowd, the idea that a hated politician can be brought undone without going through all the rigmarole of building a true political alternative is attractive. The proposition of Abbott facing karmic justice for the harsh nature of his government’s policies only adds to that attraction.
What is largely forgotten in the excitement is that this sort of thing can easily go both ways. If Abbott could be bundled off to the slammer for defrauding the Commonwealth in this way, why not honorary Israeli citizen Bob Hawke, or any other of the many MPs who have knowingly or unknowingly entered parliament as dual citizens over the decades.
Jello Biafra once gave some excellent advice: it’s possible to mix arthritis cream with hallucinogens and spread the resulting mixture on the doorhandles of police cars in order to dose the occupants.
He also gave some more relevant advice in 2012, at the Melbourne Festival. Appearing on a panel with The Church singer Steve Kilbey, Biafra said that rather than getting distracted by conspiracy theories about things that you couldn’t possibly hope to change, even if they were true, your time is better served by working towards more practical political goals.
A more practical campaign for Abbott Birthers might be to campaign for the removal of the archaic section 44(i) from the Constitution at a referendum. Doing so would re-enfranchise hundreds of thousands of dual citizens who cannot run for parliament without giving up their non-Australian citizenship – something they may not be able to reclaim if they lose.
Meanwhile, I’ll be out there in cyberspace, ever vigilant for the one document that can bring this government to its knees.
27-12-2014 06:56 PM - edited 27-12-2014 06:57 PM
I don't appreciate it when my posts get 'removed' for no apparent reason.....so will repost this one
Dear Tony Abbott,
It’s been a year since I last wrote to you. I was very angry back then, but you’ll be pleased to hear that this letter is not being written in anger, but has much more of a triumphant tone than my previous correspondence. The reason for this turn in my mood has everything to do with the reversal in your political fortunes over the previous 12 months.
As I’m sure you’ve noticed, you are incredibly unpopular. Looking back at my grievances with you in the past, I can see that much of my frustration about your behaviour was born from the fact that you were so obviously getting away with being a complete **bleep**er while still managing to be elected Prime Minister of Australia. No matter how much I tried to tell people just how dangerous a prospect you were as a PM, and no matter how violently opposed I was to everything you stood for, the Australian voting public went ahead anyway and chose to eat **bleep** because they didn’t like spinach, and I must admit I may have gone a little mad with the injustice of it all. But I feel better now because you’ve been exposed.
And you’re done now Tony.
You’re finished.
Unfortunately the realisation that your character and your behaviour has finally caught up to you, hasn’t made up for the terror that you have inflicted on the Australian public during your first year as Prime Minister, and obviously won’t save us from the two years of terror we have to come. No matter what happens to your job Tony, your government is still ruined. I assume you’re fairly concerned about the permanency of your position as Prime Minister in the short term, considering just how unpopular you are, not just with the voting public but also with your own colleagues.
You know as well as I do that the distraction of blaming Peta Credlin for all your faults can only last so long before those who used to support you start to question how it is that you either a) let Credlin make all your decisions for you and put words into your mouth considering you are meant to be the Prime Minister of Australia and capable of being the Prime Minister without a puppet-master controlling your every move, or you b) don’t let Credlin make all your decisions and instead make all the decisions yourself in which case the problem is with you and not Credlin and therefore you’re not capable of being the Prime Minister and should clearly be moved out of this job. I’m predicting a couple more Newspolls and you’ll be facing one or both of these questions. But either way, the problem with your government Tony is that you’re all as bad as each other.
I’ve given up playing the ‘which Liberal MP is the worst in the government’ game because every time I settle on a winner, another contender reminds us why they are indeed the worst, and in fact you’re all competing to be the worst every day as if you’re running a sweep for which there must be a sizeable prize as you’re all trying your very hardest to **bleep** off the electorate to the point of total electoral demise. It would be much more fun to watch this scene unfold if it wasn’t reeking such havoc on the fabric of my community in the meantime. But thankfully, the damage you are doing in the short term is just cementing in the minds of Australians an absolute determination never to let you or anyone like you anywhere near the job of Prime Minister ever again. So we can take the short term pain for the long term relief of you being a forgettable blip in an otherwise successful generation
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There’s one thing I want to make clear Tony. I’m not upset because members of your government are prone to ‘gaffes’, because I don’t think anything you or your other badly performing team members say are actually ‘gaffes’. A ‘gaffe’ is defined as ‘an unintentional act or remark causing embarrassment to its originator; a blunder’. A gaffe would therefore be something you said that you didn’t really mean, which you could easily apologise for and could be written off as a mistake and something that would never happen again. But no. It’s not just that the outrageous things you and your fellow Liberals have said are deeply offensive, and have helped Australia to get to know the true colours of you and your government, and to discover just how much we don’t want you running our country.
There are no accidental slip ups when Peta Credlin is feeding words into your ear, which you carefully recite, slowly, mechanically, repeatedly, eerily, nastily, and sometimes with a perverse, psychopathic, lip-linking grin. You say exactly what you mean, and more importantly, you follow through on exactly what you say. So it’s not the sales pitch, the slogans, the sound bites, the ‘coal is good for humanity’, the ‘best thing I did for women was to repeal the Carbon Tax’, the ‘I’ll shirt-front President Putin, you bet I am, you bet you are’ memorable moments of your harrowing first year as Prime Minister. No, it’s everything you and your team say, constantly, every day, backing up your actions; your nasty ideological agenda, your culture war, your assault on social services, your refusal to take responsibility and instead blame Labor response to everything, your policies, your interest only in the super-rich, your hatred of the disadvantaged, your attacks on health and education, your inhumane treatment of asylum seekers, your vandalism of the environment, your racism, your sexism, your mismanagement of the economy, your attack on unions and the jobs they support, your campaign to use fear to control us, your beating up of what you call ‘leaners’, your self-entitlement, the most unfair budget Australia has ever seen, it’s everything you have ever done.
So forget about looking at your message Tony. Forget about the words. Your problem isn’t that the ‘left’ has figured you out and has found the best way to exploit your weaknesses to our advantage. The problem isn’t the budget sales pitch, something you can solve by hiring one of your ABC supporters as your new media manager.
No Tony, the problem is you. The turd cannot be polished. We don’t like you and you keep digging the hole bigger.
Scott Morrison as Social Services Minister? You’ve got to be flicking kidding Tony. If you think that’s going to fix things, you’re dumber than I thought.
And that’s why it’s over for you.
Your government will be voted out in 2016, with or without you as their leader.
It’s over Tony.
Australia doesn’t want you as our Prime Minister.
Australia doesn’t want a Liberal government full of conservative fundamentalists.
And there’s nothing you can do now to stop us correcting our mistake.
Yours sincerely, as always
Victoria Rollison
http://theaimn.com/open-letter-tony-abbott-happier-one/#comment-249175
on 27-12-2014 07:00 PM
27-12-2014 07:01 PM - edited 27-12-2014 07:04 PM
well.....if so, then we could say it about yourself too I guess.....don't be silly aps
comments following this letter to TA:
"Tony Abbott and his bunch of loony tune pals has made it certain that the LNP WILL NEVER, EVER get my vote again, no matter who is PM or in the party, they must be the biggest bunch of boofheads I have ever seen...."
"Did you know that Western Australia is a State that STILL believes that Abbott is doing a GREAT JOB? The mindless majority of Western Australians cheer Abbott on and are prepared to overlook and discount the his relentless LIES, broken promises and embarrassing faux pas! It seems incredible that this isolated, backward State still believes all the lies, exaggerations, distortions and character assassinations they read in the hateful Murdoch press! Even Queensland (once known as Alabama with a Beach) has moved on and woken up to the staggering ongoing corruption of Campbell Newman and have, at last, realised how ruthlessly toxic the LNP are at federal and state levels. We all need to start openly criticising WA for its short sightedness. Not only is this State geographically isolated, it is intellectually and morally isolated and we need to inform them of what is going on! Sandgropers appear to be CLUELESS about what is going on in the rest of the country … and the rest of the world, for that matter! Western Australia needs to WAKE UP and STOP giving the LNP support .. this disgusting, parasitic pack of fascists who head the worst most dangerous government in 400,000 years of human occupation of Australia."
27-12-2014 07:09 PM - edited 27-12-2014 07:11 PM
.....well what is scary is how WA's ex-Treasurer and Attorney General (Porter resigned his post 12 months before next WA State election to get/take a Fed post of Pearce (made especially for him imo)....Christian Porter is now Parliamentary (one of 2) Sec to Tony Abbott......so the top bod fed cabinet will be full bottle on ALL the Treasury details in the State of WA.
No wonder WA Premier Barnett is not the slightest bit impressed with the LNP/Coalition Fed Govt goings on.
wonder if this post will be 'removed' too
27-12-2014 07:34 PM - edited 27-12-2014 07:35 PM
.....and.....here we go!
............West Australian Premier Colin Barnett has again threatened to vote down any changes to the Goods and Services Tax, unless the state secures a greater share.
.......Mr Barnett said he welcomed the Prime Minister's acknowledgement that the "GST system is failing" but said he would not consider any changes to the tax, unless the Federal Government altered its carve-up. ...
on 27-12-2014 08:04 PM