Diary of our stinking Govt.

[boris1gary]

As it's more than 100 days now, it has been suggested that a new thread was needed.  The current govt has been breaking promises and telling lies at a rate so fast it's hard to keep up.

This below is worrying, "independent" pffft, as if your own doctor is somehow what? biased, it's ridiculous. So far there is talk of only including people under a certain age 30-35, for now. Remember that if your injured in a car, injured at work or get ill, you too might need to go on the DSP. They have done a similar think in the UK with devastating consequences.

and this is the 2nd time recently where the Govt has referred to work as welfare???? So when you go to work tomorrow (or tuesday), just remember that's welfare.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-20/disability-pensioners-may-be-reassessed-kevin-andrews/5400598

Independent doctors could be called in to reassess disability pensioners, Federal Government says

The Federal Government is considering using independent doctors to examine disability pensioners and assess whether they should continue to receive payments.

Currently family doctors provide reports supporting claims for the Disability Support Pension (DSP).

But Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews is considering a measure that would see independent doctors reassess eligibility.

"We are concerned that where people can work, the best form of welfare is work," Mr Andrews said at a press conference.

[cherry*135]

Yes, shows his selfish/self absorbed side.. no weighing up shall we keep the baby, shall the mother keep it and Abbott help raise and support (financially) nup.. a baby didn't suit his lifestyle plans in any way.

In his second year at university, he had a girlfriend, whom he loved – and yet their relationship was an on-again, off-again affair because Abbott was strongly drawn towards the idea of becoming a priest.

When she fell pregnant, Abbott knew he was too immature to help raise the baby, and it was adopted. This decision was to haunt him for many decades. When he married, he told his wife, Margie, about it and, when they reached appropriate ages, his three daughters: Louise, Frances and Bridget.

As far as he was concerned it was more than a young man’s mistake. He had sinned, and he did not marry the mother of his child, which was an abject dereliction of moral duty. As for his dream of entering the priesthood – at this time he felt he wasn’t morally strong enough and was spiritually unworthy. His escape clause was when, through the influence of Father Costello, he won a Rhodes Scholarship to Oxford University.

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Back in Australia Abbott made a decision that stunned his family. He wanted to become a priest. Although he went to Mass regularly, he never seemed so much a spiritual man as one whose faith was based on the traditional values of the Church. At the age of 26, he was much older than most of the men entering St Patrick’s seminary at Manly. No doubt Mankowski was a huge influence on the decision.

Yet instead of finding a form of Catholicism that featured social engagement, poverty and service to the community, he found himself surrounded by a strongly homosexual fraternity. A Catholic friend of mine who mixed with the St Patrick’s priests said, still with surprise in his voice, that they were “the most effeminate men I had ever seen. And this was when the Church unconditionally condemned homosexuality!” With this indulgent atmosphere came an emphasis on self-absorption. Abbott may have disliked homosexuality, but he agreed with Santamaria that “introspection is the first step towards insanity”. He was and is a man who likes being around other people and he’d sooner act than spend time contemplating his own navel. He regarded this aspect of Catholicism as solipsistic – and he also couldn’t hack celibacy. Like half of the young seminarians, he left before becoming a priest.

[raptor_rebooted]

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@debra9275 wrote:
I note Am

That HE wasn't ready

Shame for everyone else eh?

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don't you think that is up to the parties

involved to decide?

Mrs Donnelly and Mr Abbott have remained in regular contact over the past 27 years, believing they shared a son. Mr Abbott later married another woman to whom he has three daughters, while Mrs Donnelly, a West Australian artist, also married and had four children.

[cherry*135]

19yo Good Catholic boy, gets girl pregnant (?) runs a mile basically. He had no intention of being part of that baby's life... not something he soul-searched before making a decision. (He said so in his own words (quoted in my previous posts).

[cherry*135]

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@*julia*2010 wrote:

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@debra9275 wrote:
I note Am

That HE wasn't ready

Shame for everyone else eh?

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don't you think that is up to the parties

involved to decide?

Mrs Donnelly and Mr Abbott have remained in regular contact over the past 27 years, believing they shared a son. Mr Abbott later married another woman to whom he has three daughters, while Mrs Donnelly, a West Australian artist, also married and had four children.

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Got a link for that? Why would they remain in contact over 27 years? Ex girl/boyfriend... 'their' child was adopted out.. what did they talk about?

[debra9275]

I do

it sounds like he didn't care about the baby only seeing it briefly once in 5 days. He doesn't believe in abortion or adoption and wants to be a priest.. there is a young single mother in the 1970's, left with very few options.

[cherry*135]

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@*julia*2010 wrote:

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@am*3 wrote:

2008

Diary of our (current) sinking Stinking Govt.....................

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no its not 

i will post whatever i like about our 

government; past, present or future

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No one said you couldn't. This thread does have a specific topic though (current Govt)... that is what I was pointing out... 

As has been mentioned a gazillion times before, a new Labor/Rudd/Gillard thread would be good for those who like to rehash the past constantly.

[polksaladallie]

When his girlfriend, Kathy McDonald, became pregnant, 19-year-old Tony was unwilling to marry her as it would rule out the priesthood. It would also mean he could not apply for a Rhodes Scholarship, as it was then open only to single applicants.

http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/09/10/marr-on-abbott-nine-things-you-didnt-know-about-tony/

[cherry*135]

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@aps1080 wrote:

Not looking good for TA's moral compass..

And I suppose you are going to hold Shorten's moral compass up as a shining example ????????

ROFL

Rape accusation, married, had an affair while married, dumped his wife ...........

A real shining light !

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Did he have an illegitimate child at age 19? Good Catholic boy? Planned to be a priest for his career path?.. don't you see something a bit suss there?

Planning to be a priest, at same time getting a girlfriend 'pregnant'?

[debra9275]

Wow,! That article says she was 7 months pregnant when he walked. I must do some more reading up on this later

[fourandsixpants]

to boris:

The real threat to this Govt is an educated populace with too much time to think about issues. Thought is dangerous. Educated, reasoned thought is especially dangerous to an established order.

Honestly basic philosophy and economics should be taught in schools from a young age, it’d be so threatening to any perceived global order.

It’s not really in the government’s interest to have a public with critical thinking skills or economic knowledge! We need compliant (albeit skilled) workers and consumers, not critical thinkers. And that is exactly what schools in Oz pump out!

....as Polka posted earlier......this Govt is only interested in putting (some) funds into TAFE.......

.....this Govt is hell bent on making a good tertiary education only available to the elite in this country....one's with lots of money

Which brings us to Economics 101........or should this be termed Slavery 101 ?

 .....a special course saved for bankers and their puppet government.

Australia was built on slaves and slavery and the goal of the elite is to return to that master servant relationship. it just makes things so much easier when you dont have to worry about the underclass.

.....and most of us are on the course Enslaved 101......work harder and longer, spend more and generally be good little pro capitalist actors while actually believing we’re prefectly free, then is this the best form of control there is?

Aside from the good points you have made the other issue is that investment in productive assets has withered in Australia as investment has gone into property – up to 60% of national assets are now property – UK is 20% and US 14%, if I recall correctly. On top of that over 50% of the economy is finance based.

Our current and very dumb politicians seem to think by magic new industries will suddenly pop up to take up the slack – they won’t.

What happens when the economy goes negative? Could be very interesting.....as we only have greedy monkey's with carp elastic bands at the helm right now