As it's more than 100 days now, it has been suggested that a new thread was needed. The current govt has been breaking promises and telling lies at a rate so fast it's hard to keep up.
This below is worrying, "independent" pffft, as if your own doctor is somehow what? biased, it's ridiculous. So far there is talk of only including people under a certain age 30-35, for now. Remember that if your injured in a car, injured at work or get ill, you too might need to go on the DSP. They have done a similar think in the UK with devastating consequences.
and this is the 2nd time recently where the Govt has referred to work as welfare???? So when you go to work tomorrow (or tuesday), just remember that's welfare.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-20/disability-pensioners-may-be-reassessed-kevin-andrews/5400598
Independent doctors could be called in to reassess disability pensioners, Federal Government says
The Federal Government is considering using independent doctors to examine disability pensioners and assess whether they should continue to receive payments.
Currently family doctors provide reports supporting claims for the Disability Support Pension (DSP).
But Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews is considering a measure that would see independent doctors reassess eligibility.
"We are concerned that where people can work, the best form of welfare is work," Mr Andrews said at a press conference.
@am*3 wrote:
@*julia*2010 wrote:
@debra9275 wrote:
I note Am
That HE wasn't ready
Shame for everyone else eh?don't you think that is up to the parties
involved to decide?
Mrs Donnelly and Mr Abbott have remained in regular contact over the past 27 years, believing they shared a son. Mr Abbott later married another woman to whom he has three daughters, while Mrs Donnelly, a West Australian artist, also married and had four children.
Got a link for that? Why would they remain in contact over 27 years? Ex girl/boyfriend... 'their' child was adopted out.. what did they talk about?
http://www.theage.com.au/news/National/Paternity-shock-for-Abbott/2005/03/21/1111253955138.html
Prime Minister, Shane Mortimer, Parliamentary colleagues, but most of all, people impacted by the policies of forced adoption.
Your presence here today in such numbers and with such obvious power is a sign of how much this issue matters.
I add my own words to the eloquent and heartfelt statement that we have just heard from the Prime Minister.
In 1977, someone very important to me had a baby that was adopted. A few years later, still unmarried, she had another baby that she raised herself because, having surrendered one child, she couldnโt possibly do it again.
The late Kathy Donnelly was a beautiful person and a fine mother who loved all her children. She deserved nothing but love and support, not coercive expectations, social stigma and โ I say this with more than a pang of personal guilt โ men in her life who had failed to live up to their responsibilities.
I havenโt known a more courageous or a more admirable person ever. Her predicament and that of Daniel, the son she didnโt know for 27 years, was so frequent in an era when abortion was difficult, contraception unavailable, and when, for all sorts of reasons, marriage was thought to be impossible.
We are all living with that legacy.
I cannot imagine a grief greater than that of a parent and a child parted from each other.
I cannot imagine an ache greater than the fear that โmum didnโt want meโ. Especially, since it wasnโt true.
But hundreds of thousands of Australians have been adopted, often, because their mothers had no real choice or were denied any choice and that means that there are hundreds of thousands of mothers who hardly knew their children and hundreds of thousands of children who hardly knew their mothers.
This is a tragedy for them and for our nation and we must atone for it.
It was never simply โfor the bestโ. The people who claimed that it was should have known better. Some of them did know better but they persisted despite the avoidable pain that was inflicted on hundreds of thousands of people.
There is no stronger bond than that between mother and child and, at least while children are young, there is no more important relationship.
There are no first and second class mothers.
There are no first or second class children.
Every child deserves a motherโs love and every mother has the right to raise her child.
We know it now and we should have known it then.
It should never have been presumed โ presumed โ that some mothers were incapable of raising their child because as everyone here knows only too well, there was presumption and there was coercion: by families, by charities, by peers, and by the conditions that governments placed upon people.
The harder something is, and few things are harder than raising a child alone, the more people should have had our support, not our judgment.
We were hard-hearted and we were judgmental and thatโs why we should apologise.
We did inflict pain on those we loved and on those we had a responsibility for.
For some, we turned what should been the wonderful experience of new life into something filled with shame.
Instead of love, there was reproach;
Instead of support, rejection;
Instead of celebration, silence;
And instead of justice, there was wrongdoing.
So today, our nation acknowledges that this was wrong and that we are sorry.
Today, we accept responsibility for the pain, the suffering and the grief reverberating through tens of thousands of Australian families.
On behalf of the nation, I join the Prime Minister in apologising.
We also honour everyone who through the years has demonstrated an unyielding determination not to be crushed by this injustice and to bring our failures to light.
Today, your courage has prevailed.
We honour the birth parents, including fathers, who have always loved their children.
We honour those adoptive parents who have tried to do the right thing by their children.
And we honour all the children who have triedโฆI hear what you are saying, thank you.
I honour the parents who have always loved their children.
The last thing I would wish to do is to cause pain to people who have suffered too much pain already and I am happy to retract it.
We honour the parents, including the fathers, who have always loved their children.
We honour those adoptive parents who have tried to do the right thing by their children.
And we honour all the children, all the children, who have tried in their own ways to find their own place in a complex and confusing world.
There are big lessons here, now and for the future. I have just learnt some myself a moment ago.
We shouldnโt think that itโs only previous generations that have made mistakes.
Part of apologising for old mistakes is striving to avoid new ones. And I will strive, madam, to avoid new ones.
Whenever adoptions take place, they have to be chosen and they have to be for the right reasons.
People have a right to make choices and they deserve our love and respect whatever choices they make. They deserve our love and respect whatever choices they make.
Ladies and gentlemen, my friends, we canโt avoid making judgments. They should be much more honest ones in the future than they have been in the past. That way, we wonโt be perfect but we should be better, we should be better.
Ladies and gentlemen, it is an honour to be involved in todayโs apology.
I hope, I sincerely hope, that it can bring self-respect where there was shame, peace where there was anger, and reassurance where there was reproach.
May it be a part of the healing process for our nation and for all of us.
Mrs Donnelly and Mr Abbott have remained in regular contact over the past 27 years, believing they shared a son. Mr Abbott later married another woman to whom he has three daughters, while Mrs Donnelly, a West Australian artist, also married and had four children.
Got a link for that? Why would they remain in contact over 27 years? Ex girl/boyfriend... 'their' child was adopted out.. what did they talk about?
http://www.theage.com.au/news/National/Paternity-shock-for-Abbott/2005/03/21/1111253955138.html
Prime Minister, Shane Mortimer, Parliamentary colleagues, but most of all, people impacted by the policies of forced adoption.
__________________________________________________________________________
I have no desire to read all of that. Which sentence says specifically that TA had regular contact with her over 27 years?
@am*3 wrote:
@*julia*2010 wrote:
@am*3 wrote:
@*julia*2010 wrote:
@debra9275 wrote:
I note Am
That HE wasn't ready
Shame for everyone else eh?don't you think that is up to the parties
involved to decide?
Mrs Donnelly and Mr Abbott have remained in regular contact over the past 27 years, believing they shared a son. Mr Abbott later married another woman to whom he has three daughters, while Mrs Donnelly, a West Australian artist, also married and had four children.
Got a link for that? Why would they remain in contact over 27 years? Ex girl/boyfriend... 'their' child was adopted out.. what did they talk about?
http://www.theage.com.au/news/National/Paternity-shock-for-Abbott/2005/03/21/1111253955138.html
Prime Minister, Shane Mortimer, Parliamentary colleagues, but most of all, people impacted by the policies of forced adoption.
__________________________________________________________________________
I have no desire to read all of that. Which sentence says specifically that TA had regular contact with her over 27 years?
open the link.
the article is not that long.
