Diary of our stinking Govt.

[boris1gary]

As it's more than 100 days now, it has been suggested that a new thread was needed.  The current govt has been breaking promises and telling lies at a rate so fast it's hard to keep up.

This below is worrying, "independent" pffft, as if your own doctor is somehow what? biased, it's ridiculous. So far there is talk of only including people under a certain age 30-35, for now. Remember that if your injured in a car, injured at work or get ill, you too might need to go on the DSP. They have done a similar think in the UK with devastating consequences.

and this is the 2nd time recently where the Govt has referred to work as welfare???? So when you go to work tomorrow (or tuesday), just remember that's welfare.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-20/disability-pensioners-may-be-reassessed-kevin-andrews/5400598

Independent doctors could be called in to reassess disability pensioners, Federal Government says

The Federal Government is considering using independent doctors to examine disability pensioners and assess whether they should continue to receive payments.

Currently family doctors provide reports supporting claims for the Disability Support Pension (DSP).

But Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews is considering a measure that would see independent doctors reassess eligibility.

"We are concerned that where people can work, the best form of welfare is work," Mr Andrews said at a press conference.

[debra9275]

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2014/dec/30/welfare-recipients-should-be-forced-to-take-co...

A former Labor MP has been slammed for suggesting people should only receive welfare payments if they are on forced contraception.

hesre's another article on that Am

Personally I think it's really OFF

[aps1080]

Debra

So we have to pay for say 10 kids vi our taxes for 18 years ?

A bit li that drongo in the UK that has multiple kids, got a boob job on the National Health System and sends her kids to school by taxi,
All paid for by the Gov't.

[***super_nova***]

Something to consider:

"Numerous studies have shown nearly all the money the unemployment and the sick receive in welfare flows back into the Australian economy through spending. "Dole bludgers" don't funnel taxpayers money into offshore bank accounts and tax havens, they usually spend it, and often they spend it in their local communities.

Hundreds of Australian towns and villages are literally being kept alive by the welfare benefits the local unemployed and sick receive. "

[polksaladallie]

What's off about it is that he mentions men and the part they play as an afterthought.

Perhaps a bit of snip, snip for them too?

[***super_nova***]

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@aps1080 wrote:
Debra

So we have to pay for say 10 kids vi our taxes for 18 years ?

A bit li that drongo in the UK that has multiple kids, got a boob job on the National Health System and sends her kids to school by taxi,
All paid for by the Gov't.

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You really believe all these stories?  Do you have any idea how much the dole is here or UK?  These beat up stories usually give income figure that is for fortnight, or even months, and make it sound as weekly income. 

By the way, if somebody has 10 kids with 5 different fathers, the fathers are paying  tax as well.  And one day the kids will pay your pension.  But maybe we should castrate the men who sire multiple kids with multiple women and do not support them?

[cherry*135]

Yes, it is really OFF.  I read some more old articles where he has been quoted in the news. He is  a has been, now trying to grab attention... 

Another example:

"While that campaign to prevent violence against women and their children has cross-party political support, some men are critical of the focus on women. Former federal Labor MP Garry Johns says the campaign ignores the even higher rate of violence against men."

But the Federal Labor Member for the Victorian seat of Gellibrand, Tim Watts, says men who criticise the focus on women need to grow up."

....ELEANOR HALL: So what was your reaction to the criticism by former fellow Labor MP Gary Johns of the Our Watch campaign to prevent violence against women and their children?

TIM WATTS: Look, it was very frustrating, but I can't say that it was particularly surprising.

Since I started speaking out on this issue this is something that I hear quite a lot from men.

You talk about the statistics, you talk about the prevalence of violence against women, and there seems to be an instinctive reaction on the part of some men to say, well, what about men?

It's clear that many men are murdered by men every year.

Now the point that I make in response is that that's no reason not to do something about violence against women.

...TIM WATTS: Frankly, I find it pretty difficult to understand a reaction - upon hearing the fact that one woman is murdered in Australia by a partner or former partner every week - the reaction that would be, well what about me?

http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2014/s4084745.htm

[debra9275]

yes, snip, snip I reckon too Polks lol

[debra9275]

I assume you've never had kids aps?

[debra9275]

I hope that bloke isn't another one of those right to lifers, they scare the hell out of me in the lib party.... like Andrews

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/child-ready-life-ready-kevin-andrews-argues-fo...

[cherry*135]

More on Gary Johns

DAVID PENBERTHY, SUNDAY MAIL (SA)

SEPTEMBER 20, 2014 5:06PM

A black eye for former Labor minister Gary Johns over his domestic violence views

As far as I can tell, former federal Labor Minister Gary Johns is not a member of the men’s movement. He seems far too intelligent for that, which makes a column he wrote last week decrying aspects of the anti-domestic violence movement even more puzzling, as it was one of more irresponsible and ill-informed contributions I have seen on the important debate about women getting beaten up and killed.

...a new organisation, Our Watch, aimed at raising awareness of and combating domestic violence.

It is a pretty unremarkable and non-contentious organisation, and one which almost every man and woman would applaud. Johns, however, took serious issue with the very premise of the organisation, namely its concern that, on average, one woman a week is killed in Australia through domestic violence.

...The thing which really infuriates me about the kind of twaddle peddled by Johns is that it seems so irrationally defensive. Men should just accept that there is a problem with male violence, and call it out as deplorable if it is committed against women or, indeed, men.

Johns column was an undergraduate one, and it reminded me very much of the nonsense arguments that used to be spouted at university by poncey types from the private boys schools about the fact that there was a campus women’s officer to care for the welfare of female students.

The argument, put more forgivably by spotty-faced 19-year-old conservatives than former Cabinet ministers, was that the existence of such a position was reverse discrimination, and that the interests of men on campus weren’t getting enough attention.

Well, none of the blokes I hung out with at uni were ever date-raped, never “felt up” while they slept in their bed at a residential college, never flashed at by a naked woman as they walked through the unlit parklands to their car at night.

Gary Johns should grow up a bit. The argument he put would sound more appropriate being shouted across the refectory by a yappy student politician, not a former minister of the crown who has decided to be a contrarian purely for the sake of it.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/opinion/david-penberthy-a-black-eye-for-former-labor-minister-gar...