on โ20-04-2014 10:21 PM
As it's more than 100 days now, it has been suggested that a new thread was needed. The current govt has been breaking promises and telling lies at a rate so fast it's hard to keep up.
This below is worrying, "independent" pffft, as if your own doctor is somehow what? biased, it's ridiculous. So far there is talk of only including people under a certain age 30-35, for now. Remember that if your injured in a car, injured at work or get ill, you too might need to go on the DSP. They have done a similar think in the UK with devastating consequences.
and this is the 2nd time recently where the Govt has referred to work as welfare???? So when you go to work tomorrow (or tuesday), just remember that's welfare.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-20/disability-pensioners-may-be-reassessed-kevin-andrews/5400598
Independent doctors could be called in to reassess disability pensioners, Federal Government says
The Federal Government is considering using independent doctors to examine disability pensioners and assess whether they should continue to receive payments.
Currently family doctors provide reports supporting claims for the Disability Support Pension (DSP).
But Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews is considering a measure that would see independent doctors reassess eligibility.
"We are concerned that where people can work, the best form of welfare is work," Mr Andrews said at a press conference.
on โ02-01-2015 10:27 PM
on โ02-01-2015 10:27 PM
on โ02-01-2015 10:28 PM
โ02-01-2015 10:34 PM - edited โ02-01-2015 10:35 PM
ref discussion that this govt having no moral compass
and your comment earlier:
they have no morals so they have no need of a moral compass, not much need for a compass of any sort - only going in one direction - backwards.
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Saying the โAbbott Government has lost its moral compassโ implies that they had one in the first place. I havenโt seen any evidence of this.
on โ02-01-2015 10:35 PM
on โ02-01-2015 10:36 PM
What really enrages me is you lot that profess to care (except Sarah Hanson Young)
yet your policies killed so many women and children.1
Dead bodies of little kids, drowned because you lot didn't want to stop the boats.
I haven't even started posting pictures of the Asylum Seeker bodies yet to show the hypocrisy.
And yet you don't even acknowledge that their is a system for entry into Australia, you just want to let
everyone in, no system, no methodolgy and then provide never ending money for them even though
they can afford $10,000 for the boat ride.
on โ02-01-2015 10:39 PM
@boris1gary wrote:
@debra9275 wrote:
Maybe it's a left wing trait Boris ๐ lol
I've lost mine then
, can't even be bothered to read them anymore, I already know what it says.
Sarah Hanson Young
Stop the boats
Warships/jetfighters/tanks
Gunns (defunct company) could provide 2000 jobs if it wasn't for the Greens.
Shorten did this, said this, looked that way, didn't do that
Did I miss anything?
on โ02-01-2015 10:39 PM
โ02-01-2015 10:46 PM - edited โ02-01-2015 10:47 PM
Since John Howard wedged Kim Beazley over the MV Tampa in the lead-up to the 2001 election, Labor has always struggled with, and ultimately been flogged over, the politics of asylum seekers by trying to strike a balance between tough and humane.
Labor Policy pleases no one
Inevitably, it pleases no one. The people smugglers exploit the goodwill, the voters on the left run off to the Greens, while those on the right and many in the middle stick with the Coalition.
Of the reasons Labor was thrown out of office in 2013, boats was chief among them.
In a strike aimed at drawing a line under the pending internal debate, opposition immigration spokesman Richard Marles addressed the National Press Club on Tuesday.
โThe asylum-seeker issue has been an appalling debate for Australia,โ he quite rightly asserted.
In a speech aimed as equally at his colleagues as it was to the broader audience, Marles sought to trip up the left with a counter-humanitarian argument as to why Labor should not abandon its support for offshore processing.
Those coming by boat did so in such numbers that they took up almost every spot open to refugees under Australiaโs annual humanitarian intake, denying places to those languishing in refugee camps elsewhere.
โAs those arriving by sea have soaked up the humanitarian program, the voiceless in the debate are people in camps such as Dadaab in Kenya and Yida in South Sudan,โ he said. โPeople languishing in these camps are among the worldโs most vulnerable people and yet the large numbers of asylum seekers arriving by sea have denied them the opportunity to have entry under our program.
So the GENUINE REFUGEES don't get a look in becaus the people who can pay take up all the spaces.
on โ02-01-2015 10:50 PM
The Australian (complete article)
December, 15
Sarah Hanson-Youngโs David Hicks tweet angers ex-army MP Andrew Nikolic
GREENS senator Sarah Hanson-Youngโs tweet that convicted terrorist David Hicks had โgutsโ has angered Liberal MP Andrew ยญNikolic, who commanded troops in Afghanistan.
A former army brigadier, Mr Nikolic was in Afghanistan when Mr Hicks was arrested, and he told The Australian yesterday thatยญ Senator Hanson-Youngโs comment was โobsceneโ and ยญโappallingโ.
Attorney-General George Brandis was speaking at the Human Rights Commission awards ceremony in Sydney last week when Mr Hicks shouted to him: โI was tortured for 5ยฝ years in Guantanamo Bay in the full knowledge of your party. What do you have to say?โ
Senator Brandis did not resยญpond, but later said he had noticed โa random individual, who turned out to be a terroristโ yelling. Mr Hicks said Mr Brandis was a coward for not answering him.
Senator Brandis, asked about the episode at a Senate committee hearing, said: โYou donโt expect to run into a terrorist at a human rights awards event.โ
Senator Hanson-Young had tweeยญted: โReckon David Hicks has a hell of a lot more guts than George Brandis and all the other govt ministers who stayed silent and turned a blind eye.โ
Mr Hicks and his lawyer have said the report released in the US last week about torture of detainees backs his claims he was tortured at Guantanamo Bay, where he was one of the first inmates.
Mr Nikolic said Mr Hicks was convicted of providing material support to the Taliban, which had killed his friend, SAS sergeant ยญAndrew Russell, and many other Australians.
The Greens have repeatedly called for an independent inquiry into Australiaโs role in Mr Hicksโs detention, treatment and trial.