Diary of our stinking Govt.

[boris1gary]

As it's more than 100 days now, it has been suggested that a new thread was needed.  The current govt has been breaking promises and telling lies at a rate so fast it's hard to keep up.

This below is worrying, "independent" pffft, as if your own doctor is somehow what? biased, it's ridiculous. So far there is talk of only including people under a certain age 30-35, for now. Remember that if your injured in a car, injured at work or get ill, you too might need to go on the DSP. They have done a similar think in the UK with devastating consequences.

and this is the 2nd time recently where the Govt has referred to work as welfare???? So when you go to work tomorrow (or tuesday), just remember that's welfare.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-20/disability-pensioners-may-be-reassessed-kevin-andrews/5400598

Independent doctors could be called in to reassess disability pensioners, Federal Government says

The Federal Government is considering using independent doctors to examine disability pensioners and assess whether they should continue to receive payments.

Currently family doctors provide reports supporting claims for the Disability Support Pension (DSP).

But Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews is considering a measure that would see independent doctors reassess eligibility.

"We are concerned that where people can work, the best form of welfare is work," Mr Andrews said at a press conference.

[cherry*135]

Aps wrote: What they say is correct, it is hindering the Gov't and yet you have the gall to say no jobs being created but
won't let reform happen so they can get on with it.

Nonsense. The budget reforms that have stalled, aren't going to create jobs if they are passed in the Senate. How is cutting pensions going to increase job creation???? How is paying $7 co- payment to a bulk bill Dr going to increase job creation. How is de-regulating uni fees going to lead to job creation?.....how is reducing aged pension increases going to lead to job creation.??

Especially the $7 medical co-payment ehich was supposed to go to dome pie in the dky idea for a future medical resaerch fund.

They are unfair measures and have been rejected for that reason.

[boris1gary]

the reality is the exact opposite of what the right is spinning

http://www.thekouk.com/blog/senate-saving-the-economy.html#.VKuXnCuUfqQ

Senate saving the economy

THU, 04 DEC 2014  |  STEPHEN KOUKOULAS

The funny thing that not too many people realise about the Senate blocking the Abbott government's policy measures to hike taxes and fees and to reduce government spending is  that it is positive for the economy.

You don't have to be John Maynard Keynes to understand that measures that would take $28 billion out of the hands of the private sector and put into the Treasury coffers would dampen economic growth – it is called fiscal tightening.

If, per chance, the Senate passed these measures, the economy would be weaker as fees were paid ands services cut. So few people, Joe Hockey included, seem to get this point.

The Senate road block on budget measures is actually one positive for the economy is an otherwise gloomy space.

[cherry*135]

Aps wrote: have asked the PM to cut Palestinian aid as it's a waste and can be spent on getting am3 a job.

Will you stop making personal comments like that involving my id. ( second one .i have read so far). I never said I am in need of a job. I made it quite clear I am concerned for the majority of people out of work whowant jobs but there is not enough jobs ( full time jobs). Thise people don't need the govt treating them like bludgers.

[aps1080]

Jesus am3, you want the govt to do something, i make a suggestion and now you can it.
And nowhere did i say they should be treated as bludgers.

[cherry*135]

You don't need to carry on making personal comments ( e.g re finding me a job etc)using my id in your posts. Totally unneccesary and contravenes board usage policy.

Abbott promised to create jobs (millions) he has done nothing to create any full time jobs so far.

Regional areas of Australia have been economically deoressed for years, your airy fairy ideas aren't going to change that.

Abbott Govt is targetting the unemployed - all of them as bludgers - BUT AT THE SAME TIME the Govt are not not doing snything to create the promised jobs WHAT DON'T YOU GET ABOUT THAT?

Budget measures being stalled has nothing to do with creating more jobs.

[aps1080]

"Regional areas of Australia have been economically deoressed for years, your airy fairy ideas aren't going to change that."

Really.

I would say Geelong is an example of airy fairy ideas that have worked by having a plan, short and long term.

And its not like these things happen overnight, big towns are getting bigger and smaller towns miss out.
Fact of life but not exactly unforeseen, i have been watching it happen years as I travel.

You also see those areas that are working hard to attract business and people and those
That just decide someone else's job or I will happen.


Did you read those ages I posted about Geelong ?

Tell me if that looks like a basket case now ?
It was very much lie where you are 15 years ago.

[cherry*135]

The point is Abbott promised to create jobs and he hasn't done so. His Govt is trying to introduce severe changes to eligibilty for dole payments. That will adversely affect ALL unemployed, the majority bring penalised because Abbott & Co. like to push the 'leaners' barrow about all unemployed ( inferring thry are bludgers and don't want to work).

There are plenty that want to work but THERE ARE NOT enough jobs TODAY.... Not 15 years ago or 5-10 years in the future. they need jobs NOW.

The Govt is failing them by not creating jobs as promised and at the same time trying to strip them of the already meagre dole payment (Newstart). Especially those under 30 yo.

[gleee58]

Why do you keep using Geelong as the shining example of how good this govt is?

Do you know what the level of unemployment is?

How is the youth employment rates?

Is it higher than Wollongong or Port Macquarie?

If you want to discuss youth unemployment and Geelong start a thread about it.

This thread is about the current govt, not individual posters, or how wonderful Geelong or Geelong's Mayor may or may not be.

[aps1080]

Am

I understand that.

Yet you say "Regional areas of Australia have been economically deoressed for years, your airy fairy ideas aren't going to change that."

Nothing is going to change that and my airy fairy ideas are carp, yet you don't acknowledge that Geelong is an example where it has worked.

I have asked this before but you won't answer
Do you give your local council a hard time about creating jobs in your area ?

And that is regardless of hat Abbott said, YOUR local council needs to be doing something as well.

Answer this
WHAT DID LABOR DO FOR YOUR AREA for the last 6 years ?

[debra9275]

Geelong is a fairly big regional centre, it's the last major town before hitting the Great Ocean Road and lots of beach/coastal tourist towns that do very well over the summer months. ( and so does Geelong seasonally)

It may be totally different to where you are AM, I don't know.

my suburb also has always had a strategic development plan and I would call it airy fairy, not much of it has ever eventuated

a lot of the time, things look pretty good on paper, but  converting them into reality is a different  story