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boris1gary · ‎20-04-2014

As it's more than 100 days now, it has been suggested that a new thread was needed. The current govt has been breaking promises and telling lies at a rate so fast it's hard to keep up.

This below is worrying, "independent" pffft, as if your own doctor is somehow what? biased, it's ridiculous. So far there is talk of only including people under a certain age 30-35, for now. Remember that if your injured in a car, injured at work or get ill, you too might need to go on the DSP. They have done a similar think in the UK with devastating consequences.

and this is the 2nd time recently where the Govt has referred to work as welfare???? So when you go to work tomorrow (or tuesday), just remember that's welfare.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-20/disability-pensioners-may-be-reassessed-kevin-andrews/5400598

Independent doctors could be called in to reassess disability pensioners, Federal Government says

The Federal Government is considering using independent doctors to examine disability pensioners and assess whether they should continue to receive payments.

Currently family doctors provide reports supporting claims for the Disability Support Pension (DSP).

But Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews is considering a measure that would see independent doctors reassess eligibility.

"We are concerned that where people can work, the best form of welfare is work," Mr Andrews said at a press conference.

vicr3000 · ‎23-02-2015

Abbott has already said that.

Can't wait for the teeth nashing of the first few. And the deportations.

Shorten supports all this so no mileage from it.

Armed guards ?

As though she didn't see the Shirts they are wearing with CUSTOMS on them.

cherry*135 · ‎23-02-2015

@vicr3000 wrote:

Abbott has already said that. Doh

Can't wait for the teeth nashing of the first few. And the deportations. - your opinion only that there will be teeth gnashing

Shorten supports all this so no mileage from it - your opinion only

Abbott said this too.

The opposition's foreign affairs spokeswoman, Tanya Plibersek, asks Mr Abbott if he considered sending troops to Ukraine last year.

Mr Abbott: "We did talk to our Dutch friends about what might be done to ensure that those bodies could come home to their loved ones....We did talk to the Dutch about what might have been done. There was talk with the Dutch about a joint operation. Was the number suggested by me? No. Was this frivolous? No."

phew.. uses a lot of words to say very little.

raptor_rebooted · ‎23-02-2015

Abbott has already said that.

lol yep, he did.

gleee58 · ‎23-02-2015

@icyfroth wrote:
@*julia*2010 wrote:
@gleee58 wrote:
@*julia*2010 wrote:
They were not guards but there were armed personnel that were clearly visible in the photos.

where did you see these photos?
can you post them here?
Search them up, they shouldn't be that hard to find.
I don't know if they're in the report or not.
there aren't any photos of armed personnel
at the detention centre.

I think this might be the pic Glee is referring to. These are not detention centre guards. They are border security personnell.

That might be one of the images.

And they're armed. The point was there were armed personnel and the minister and his PS offsider attacked Triggs on the basis that she said armed guards instead of armed personnel. Not good enough was their attempt to attack and shame her when all they had to do was explain who is armed and who isn't. They knew exactly what she meant and chose to go the sexist attack dogs instead of answering the question properly.

She was clear that they were not inside the centres so it was doubly clear which personnel were armed. While she was describing the conditions and talking about the report they were playing semantics and attacking the messenger.