As it's more than 100 days now, it has been suggested that a new thread was needed. The current govt has been breaking promises and telling lies at a rate so fast it's hard to keep up.
This below is worrying, "independent" pffft, as if your own doctor is somehow what? biased, it's ridiculous. So far there is talk of only including people under a certain age 30-35, for now. Remember that if your injured in a car, injured at work or get ill, you too might need to go on the DSP. They have done a similar think in the UK with devastating consequences.
and this is the 2nd time recently where the Govt has referred to work as welfare???? So when you go to work tomorrow (or tuesday), just remember that's welfare.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-20/disability-pensioners-may-be-reassessed-kevin-andrews/5400598
Independent doctors could be called in to reassess disability pensioners, Federal Government says
The Federal Government is considering using independent doctors to examine disability pensioners and assess whether they should continue to receive payments.
Currently family doctors provide reports supporting claims for the Disability Support Pension (DSP).
But Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews is considering a measure that would see independent doctors reassess eligibility.
"We are concerned that where people can work, the best form of welfare is work," Mr Andrews said at a press conference.
( or in my own words, not true) Your actual words : "untrue" ! Your comment: "newscorp's The Times has been found to have printed untrue front page stories in the UK election.
The Times was NEVER found to have printed "untrue front page stories " only inaccurate and misleading. there is a very important distinction, traits that are well known within our media and occasionally in our microcosm e.g
"newscorp's The Times has been found to have printed untrue front page stories in the UK election. the trouble is the mud sticks when they print garbage"
As to the relevance of a Courier Mail front page and a UK IPSO finding, I find myself bemused, can we/you not dig up an all Australian diss the malodorous Abbott Govt topic, sans any misleading title!
@debra9275 wrote:So, your big problem is that I called them ministers instead of MP's?"
"Most wouldn't have to explain that when discussing a division in the HOR that the vote is between cabinet ministers and shadow cabinet ministers..
Which is also wrong
not if you are capable of changing the word "ministers' into MP's which is what i should've said... but hey. I don't claim to be perfect and i don't ever sweat the 'small stuff"
however that was a very funny 'gaffe' from the PM in Parliament when he said "doing a Turnbull" instead of doing a "turnback"
Not sweating the small stuff 
isn't what this whole thread is about.
Also he said "turnbook: not turnbull but that could not possibley suit your agenda
@djlukjilly wrote:
@debra9275 wrote:So, your big problem is that I called them ministers instead of MP's?"
"Most wouldn't have to explain that when discussing a division in the HOR that the vote is between cabinet ministers and shadow cabinet ministers..
Which is also wrong
not if you are capable of changing the word "ministers' into MP's which is what i should've said... but hey. I don't claim to be perfect and i don't ever sweat the 'small stuff"
however that was a very funny 'gaffe' from the PM in Parliament when he said "doing a Turnbull" instead of doing a "turnback"
Not sweating the small stuff
Also he said "turnbook: not turnbull but that could not possibley suit your agenda
Where did you get that information from? Did you make it up to suit your agenda.? He definitely said "Turnbull".
it's in the transcripts
"Most wouldn't have to explain that when discussing a division in the HOR that the vote is between cabinet ministers and shadow cabinet ministers..
Which is also wrong
"not if you are capable of changing the word "ministers' into MP's which is what i should've said... but hey. I don't claim to be perfect and i don't ever sweat the 'small stuff" .
"small stuff"? the heart of of our government: basic parliamentary operating procedures?
OK, that gives us: "Most wouldn't have to explain that when discussing a division in the HOR that the vote is between cabinet MPs and shadow cabinet MPs. Wrong, perhaps this even ? :
"Most wouldn't have to explain that when discussing a division in the HOR that the vote is between MPs and MPs. Really?
Again I indicate the so easily produced "gaffe" (or lack of research) that drives me to question definitive comments, or as Descartes once wrote:
'It is only prudent never to place complete confidence in that by which we have even once been deceived.'
I direct those interested in Powers, Practice and Procedure House of Representatives Practice (6th Edition) to go here PROCEDURES.
It also covers Bills motions!
"some interesting polls from the Drum"
Gosh, imagine the results of any online polls from CS, it would be like a Kudos-fest!
"there have often been very large discrpencies between Newspoll and the other polls,"
However, a past Captains call:
The voters still prefer him as PM over Abbott
Newspoll rates Bill Shorten better prime minister than Tony Abbott in every state
AFR
Or the Guardian:
Labor leader Bill Shorten's approval rating falls to an all-time low, says poll
Labor remains ahead on a two-party preferred basis despite the falling popularity of its leader, while the Coalition nudges up one point in the latest Newspoll.
Bill Shorten’s net approval rating has fallen to an all-time low in a recent opinion poll, but Labor remains a nose ahead in the two-party preferred stakes.
The Coalition has edged up one percentage point since last month, sitting at 49% to Labor’s 51% in the latest Newspoll, published in The Australian newspaper.
Labor’s primary vote has fallen from 37% last month to 34% this month, while the Coalition has fallen one percentage point to 40%. The Greens’ primary vote is up to 14%, their highest primary vote since September 2014.
But voters appear to be dissatisfied with the performance of both leaders. Both prime minister Tony Abbott and opposition leader Bill Shorten have seen a dip in ratings.
Shorten’s net approval rating is his lowest ever, with 28% approving of his performance, and 54% disapproving, giving him a net approval rating of -26%.
Abbott’s net approval rating is only marginally better. His satisfaction rating is 34% and disapproval rating is 56%, giving him a net approval rating of -22%.
The net approval ratings have plunged since last month, when Abbott and Shorten sat at -15% and -18% respectively.
Abbott remains the preferred prime minister, on 41% to Shorten’s 38%, but 21% of respondents remain uncommitted either way.
