on โ20-04-2014 10:21 PM
As it's more than 100 days now, it has been suggested that a new thread was needed. The current govt has been breaking promises and telling lies at a rate so fast it's hard to keep up.
This below is worrying, "independent" pffft, as if your own doctor is somehow what? biased, it's ridiculous. So far there is talk of only including people under a certain age 30-35, for now. Remember that if your injured in a car, injured at work or get ill, you too might need to go on the DSP. They have done a similar think in the UK with devastating consequences.
and this is the 2nd time recently where the Govt has referred to work as welfare???? So when you go to work tomorrow (or tuesday), just remember that's welfare.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-20/disability-pensioners-may-be-reassessed-kevin-andrews/5400598
Independent doctors could be called in to reassess disability pensioners, Federal Government says
The Federal Government is considering using independent doctors to examine disability pensioners and assess whether they should continue to receive payments.
Currently family doctors provide reports supporting claims for the Disability Support Pension (DSP).
But Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews is considering a measure that would see independent doctors reassess eligibility.
"We are concerned that where people can work, the best form of welfare is work," Mr Andrews said at a press conference.
on โ03-07-2015 11:33 AM
this is an interesting article about how China is rejecting shipments of our coal calling it 'dirty'
on โ03-07-2015 11:36 AM
The media coverage of the judgment in the Joe Hockey defamation case has been somewhat predictable.
The Fairfax press, while reporting that the Treasurer was awarded $200,000 in damages, has emphasised the fact that his case in respect of the three articles sued on failed completely and that his action succeeded only in respect of the poster and some tweets (that is, relatively minor publications). That is so.
The Murdoch press has emphasised the fact that Justice White found that Fairfax had been actuated by editor-in-chief Darren Goodsir's malice in publishing the article which appeared in the Herald.
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Perhaps unwisely, The Daily Telegraph has gloated over Fairfax's loss and defamation track record, describing Hockey's case as "a rolled-gold certainty" and criticising Fairfax for not settling.
The truth is that this case has been a disaster for Hockey and it may yet prove to be a significant victory for Fairfax.
a bit more on Joes defamation case
Graham Hryce is a media lawyer at Beazley Singleton. This article was first published in The Gazette of Law and Journalism.
on โ03-07-2015 11:45 AM
I just wrote a lengthy reply but now can't be bothered. I posted what was relevant at the time of posting but if you get your jollies picking it to pieces then knock yourself out.
on โ03-07-2015 11:48 AM
@alexander*beetle wrote:I just wrote a lengthy reply but now can't be bothered. I posted what was relevant at the time of posting but if you get your jollies picking it to pieces then knock yourself out.
You hit the nail on the head.
on โ03-07-2015 12:10 PM
" I posted what was relevant at the time of posting but if you get your jollies picking it to pieces then knock yourself out. "
"Relevant at the time of posting", no, it was incorrect when you posted it, if you had bothered checking.
What you wrote was completely wrong, because the press covered this small event and did take photographs. Writing the opposite deserves criticism, otherwise the thread will end up with a plethora of unresearched comments chosen to support a political bias
AB: "So 150 people, together with father Rod from Gosford, attended a venue visited by Tony Abbott and made a silent protest by turning their backs on him. The protection staff wouldn't allow any of the press to photograph the protestors, according to father Rod."
Getting "jollies" when picking on posts lacking authenticity (nonsense)?
I must admit that lately I have been somewhat jolly !
on โ03-07-2015 12:17 PM
on โ03-07-2015 12:29 PM
No, it was not completely wrong. It was the information I had at the time.
This from someone who was actually there. You know, in real life.
He was dropped off at the back door in Baker Street, thus avoiding being seen anywhere near the protestors, and also denying the protestors a view of the man they'd come to see.
No media was allowed into the club during Abbott's visit, and your scribe, despite being a member of the club, was refused entry and told to leave the premises in no uncertain terms.
A crowd of about 150 people had assembled, many of whom had been at the Leagues Club, and were joined by others, most notable being Father Rod Bower of Gosford Anglican Church (with the famous signs).
The whole crowd turned their backs on the Prime Minister on his arrival and entry to the venue, but no photographs of this exist, as the large security contingent prevented any photographer from getting into a suitable position.
"The state police were very reasonable about it," explained Father Rod. "But when we were about to turn our backs on him, Peta Credlin went over and had a word with the Federal Officers, and it was made impossible for anyone to get photos".
"It was a case of the police protecting the Prime Minister from pensioners and children," he said.
Is that authentic enough for you or would you like me to telephone father Rod and ask him to post on here to clarify?
on โ03-07-2015 01:08 PM
AB, I just had a look around for photos from the protest and the only ones I can find are 3 photos from the daily telegraph. So you must be right. the DT are hardly what I would call " the press" just an abbott propaganda paper. Maybe they were the only ones "allowed" to cover it due to their "special" relationship with the current govt.
"only ones I can find are 3 photos from the daily telegraph". Perhaps you should research again, because the Central Coast Gosford Express Advocate /Telegraph article HERE contains 7 photos, 5 of them featuring protesters which AB wrote were not allowed!
"Maybe they were the only ones "allowed" to cover it due to their "special" relationship with the current govt. "
Oh dear where does that put the ABC who also covered the visit? , or do they have a "special" relationship with the current govt."
ABC
The Prime Minister made a rare visit to the Central Coast, insisting his government would not forget the region
Posted yesterday at 6:35pm
It was a jam-packed day from one end of the Central Coast to the other, including a morning tea, media opportunity, a business luncheon and community afternoon tea along the way.
There were cheers and hugs from the faithful, and protests from union representatives and members of the public over funding cutbacks and the government's asylum seeker policy.
I will repeat: overlooking basic research within a debate labels one's posts as being "unreliable" (codswallop).
โ03-07-2015 01:47 PM - edited โ03-07-2015 01:51 PM
"It was a case of the police protecting the Prime Minister from pensioners and children," he said." right ,during the union organised rally.
Interesting looking pensioner/child urging the protesters on in this (not allowed) photograph: (whole image among these HERE.)
Did I mention it was a union organised rally.?
"your scribe, despite being a member of the club, was refused entry and told to leave the premises in no uncertain terms."
How could he leave if he had been refused entry?
"The whole crowd turned their backs on the Prime Minister on his arrival and entry to the venue, but no photographs of this exist,"
Really? Like this one?
The media reports, including the ABC's, (and photographs) would appear to have covered Abbotts PR visit authentically, but some earlier post do not stand up to scrutiny because of their somewhat blatant bias. and lack of authenticity.
Nothing unusual here though !
on โ03-07-2015 02:07 PM