As it's more than 100 days now, it has been suggested that a new thread was needed. The current govt has been breaking promises and telling lies at a rate so fast it's hard to keep up.
This below is worrying, "independent" pffft, as if your own doctor is somehow what? biased, it's ridiculous. So far there is talk of only including people under a certain age 30-35, for now. Remember that if your injured in a car, injured at work or get ill, you too might need to go on the DSP. They have done a similar think in the UK with devastating consequences.
and this is the 2nd time recently where the Govt has referred to work as welfare???? So when you go to work tomorrow (or tuesday), just remember that's welfare.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-20/disability-pensioners-may-be-reassessed-kevin-andrews/5400598
Independent doctors could be called in to reassess disability pensioners, Federal Government says
The Federal Government is considering using independent doctors to examine disability pensioners and assess whether they should continue to receive payments.
Currently family doctors provide reports supporting claims for the Disability Support Pension (DSP).
But Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews is considering a measure that would see independent doctors reassess eligibility.
"We are concerned that where people can work, the best form of welfare is work," Mr Andrews said at a press conference.
also back to Mal Brough- he says he's not under investigation but
TGSE: "But financial stress is not confined to the lower socio economic demographic. It's relative to your lifestile. There would currently be many high flyers in the resources industry with massive mortgages, exorbitant fees to pay for elite private schools and repayments due on the family fleet of Mercs and BMWs whose budgets are under just as much stress as those on pensions or unemployment benefits
True, a "high-flier" could easily drift into economic difficulties, but the stress resulting from a possible bankruptcy would, I assert, be far different than living at ground level in a permanent poor/stressed lifestyle as opposed to a financial fall from grace with room to fall, and there are far far more of the former !
I direct your attention again to these statistics:
- Indigenous people are two to five times more likely to experience violence than non-Indigenous people
- Indigenous women are five times more likely to be homicide victims than non-Indigenous people, and
- Indigenous women are 35 times more likely to be hospitalised than non-Indigenous people.
Do you not consider that "economics" would feature in the results?
Extrapolating from the comment "higher levels of financial stress (together with lower levels of social support) and a higher risk of physical violence or victimisation:
There are many cities that have areas that are to be avoided especially at night, and especially by women because of the risk of violence.. These areas are in most cases to be found in the poorer parts of a city, not the affluent even if they might have "for sale" signs evident.
Finally, from the report I have mentioned: Personal stress, financial stress, social support and women’s experiences of physical violence:
A longitudinal analysis " LINK
Results:
Women were more likely to have experienced physical violence if they reported personal or financial stress, poor social networks, heavy alcohol consumption, were not married (or widowed) or were young. These associations held up both cross-sectionally and longitudinally. Changes in personal stress, financial stress and partner status were also found to be associated with changes in the risk of experiencing physical violence.
Conclusion:
Measures that reduce personal and financial stress or increase social support may help reduce the risk of women experiencing physical violence.
For those who do not understand simple terms:-
One in three women has experienced at least one form of domestic violence, whether her partner is a labourer, garbage man, gardener, lawyer, doctor, architect, public servant, accountant, farmer, politician, etc.
Understand now what I said?
Like the unusual use of the term "ratio" , I find the above also meaningless if one is actually seeking useful information. Certainly 1 in 3 women experience domestic violence (overall), but that figure is not valid when considered on a demographic basis.or without some explanation, e.g. how would you include the below aboriginal statistics into the 1 in 3 figure.?
Simple (meaningless) terms example: indigenous violence 2.5 in 3 + non indigenous 0.5 in 6, this equates to 1 in 3
I would wonder at the possibility of there being an even distribution of: labourer, garbage man, gardener, lawyer, doctor, architect, public servant, accountant, farmer, politician, etc. within the perpetrators of violence within the indigenous people data below, so I await an ABS reference for them.
- Indigenous people are two to five times more likely to experience violence than non-Indigenous people
- Indigenous women are five times more likely to be homicide victims than non-Indigenous people, and
- Indigenous women are 35 times more likely to be hospitalised than non-Indigenous people.
Based on interviews with perpetrators and with professionals working with domestic violence cases, the ESR study concluded that perpetrators exhibit poor self-esteem, poor communication skills, immaturity, insecurity, an incapacity to differentiate emotions, an unwillingness to acknowledge emotions, and excessive dependency upon their wives.
I do not argue that violence occurs from all "sources", just the demographic distribution, lack of required explanation, and use of statistical terms.
Whilst I am happy to "debate" any and all comments here , including the many C&Ps authors (not the DT), I have noticed the malodorous trawling level decreasing, there is not a whiff of that chap Harvey Shortten, is he still on lay-by?
@myoclon1cjerk wrote:
Harvey Shorten.Malcolm Turncoat.They're pretty close politically.Abbott's gone.That's the main thing,and if Mal wins the next election,more of the rabid right will probably be turfed out.I no complain. 😄
I can't argue with that Myo 
