on 20-04-2014 10:21 PM
As it's more than 100 days now, it has been suggested that a new thread was needed. The current govt has been breaking promises and telling lies at a rate so fast it's hard to keep up.
This below is worrying, "independent" pffft, as if your own doctor is somehow what? biased, it's ridiculous. So far there is talk of only including people under a certain age 30-35, for now. Remember that if your injured in a car, injured at work or get ill, you too might need to go on the DSP. They have done a similar think in the UK with devastating consequences.
and this is the 2nd time recently where the Govt has referred to work as welfare???? So when you go to work tomorrow (or tuesday), just remember that's welfare.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-20/disability-pensioners-may-be-reassessed-kevin-andrews/5400598
Independent doctors could be called in to reassess disability pensioners, Federal Government says
The Federal Government is considering using independent doctors to examine disability pensioners and assess whether they should continue to receive payments.
Currently family doctors provide reports supporting claims for the Disability Support Pension (DSP).
But Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews is considering a measure that would see independent doctors reassess eligibility.
"We are concerned that where people can work, the best form of welfare is work," Mr Andrews said at a press conference.
04-11-2015 12:55 AM - edited 04-11-2015 12:57 AM
who said it was against the law? That's just plain silly
04-11-2015 01:03 AM - edited 04-11-2015 01:04 AM
It is inappropriate though
04-11-2015 01:29 AM - edited 04-11-2015 01:31 AM
ABC
Bill Shorten won't comment on whether authorities paid people smugglers in Indonesia when Labor was in power.
Money well spent on land or at sea by both sides.
"who said it was against the law? That's just plain silly" Well firstly no one has, and secondly you Kudoed this poster for:
JCC: "So, is it appropriate (is it even against the law?) for a currently serving government member to go about taking money in exchange for his public speaking engagements?
That is what I was intimating, but JCC is "vanished" and my question remains unanswered, However this intrigues me : "It is inappropriate though" what is inappropriate?
04-11-2015 01:38 AM - edited 04-11-2015 01:40 AM
IN INDONESIA
that's what the article says .... Not paying people smugglers to transport people in rickety boats in international waters or Australian waters
paying people smugglers to transport people is illegal
on 04-11-2015 02:03 AM
Well firstly no one has, and secondly you Kudoed this poster for:
JCC: "So, is it appropriate (is it even against the law?) for a currently serving government member to go about taking money in exchange for his public speaking engagements?
no I didn't
I gave kudos to the post because it was generally a good post
04-11-2015 11:36 AM - edited 04-11-2015 11:38 AM
JCC: "So, is it appropriate (is it even against the law?) for a currently serving government member to go about taking money in exchange for his public speaking engagements?
You Kudoed this poster for the post containing the above:
"no I didn't .....I gave kudos to the post because it was generally a good post". Nonsense, it was unresearched politically biased twaddle.
Anyway, the excerpt above is excluded from a Kudos? Perhaps it could be covered by: "Really it's the job of the journo (poster perhaps?) to research what they're putting to print, that responsibility doesn't lie with people reposting their articles on a chat board"
"paying people smugglers to transport people is illegal"
I am interested in your legal reference, media C&Ps are unreliable, Note the difference between "aids" and transporting below. I would also add, that if (your opinion or C&Ps?) there is prima facie an offence, why has it not been pursued, who would you suggest exercises the rule of law?
A 73.3A offence requires that the payment "aids" the offence of people smuggling, which means organising or facilitating the unauthorised entry of people into a country.
I did suggest a little thought would be needed, so read Section 73.3A
on 04-11-2015 02:39 PM
JCC: "So, is it appropriate (is it even against the law?) for a currently serving government member to go about taking money in exchange for his public speaking engagements?
You Kudoed this poster for the post containing the above:
so you are putting that differently to me now??????, yes, this is the entire post I gave kudos to. because it was generally, a pretty good post as I've already poiinted out- so what??
"Despite the federal budget being $19.4 billion in deficit, Prime Minister Julia Gillard and her Ministers have taken around 160 overseas trips since last July with spouses being taken along on about 30 occasions."
Well, no. not really. You see, last July Tony Abbott was our prime minister.
Anyway, Julia Gillard is yesterday's hero. There have been two prime ministers since her time in office. It's not useful to hark back to the past with a sort of childish "well look at what she did" **bleep**-for-tat petulance.
Take the issue as it should be taken - as a stand alone issue. Is it appropriate for a current sitting member of Parliament to undertake public speaking engagements for private recompense in money?
any elected representative in any parliament.
Past memebrs of parliament no longer holding public office, no longer engaged in the service of the country as a member of government, are in a different position as private citizens and they can do what they like with their time.
Not so with people currently holding an elected govt office representing their constituents.
So, is it appropriate (is it even against the law?) for a currently serving government member to go about taking money in exchange for his public speaking engagements?
No comparisons with the behaviour of past persons is neccessary or called for. The question stands alone
on 04-11-2015 02:40 PM
and to answer this:
what is inappropriate?
I think google is still working- I suggest you look it up
05-11-2015 09:43 AM - edited 05-11-2015 09:44 AM
Tony Abbott was eyeing an early double-dissolution election before he was replaced and was preparing to take Australia to the polls in the first part of 2016 to avoid a third budget, according to an inside source.
Fairfax Media has learnt staff in the former prime minister's office had been told that annual leave requests would not be granted in the first part of 2016 because an election campaign had been pencilled in for that period.
on 05-11-2015 09:46 AM
Charities working in immigration detention centres were asked to pay multimillion-dollar bonds that could be forfeited if they spoke out against government policy, as the Coalition sought to maintain secrecy over border protection.
In what critics say is the latest evidence of the government's determination to control information about its immigration detention program, aid agencies including Save the Children and the Australian Red Cross were asked to offer "performance security" – in one case, of $2 million – during negotiations over contracts relating to work caring for asylum seekers and refugees.
It came as the non-profit organisations were also being asked to agree to clauses that would prevent them speaking to the media without government approval.