on 20-04-2014 10:21 PM
As it's more than 100 days now, it has been suggested that a new thread was needed. The current govt has been breaking promises and telling lies at a rate so fast it's hard to keep up.
This below is worrying, "independent" pffft, as if your own doctor is somehow what? biased, it's ridiculous. So far there is talk of only including people under a certain age 30-35, for now. Remember that if your injured in a car, injured at work or get ill, you too might need to go on the DSP. They have done a similar think in the UK with devastating consequences.
and this is the 2nd time recently where the Govt has referred to work as welfare???? So when you go to work tomorrow (or tuesday), just remember that's welfare.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-20/disability-pensioners-may-be-reassessed-kevin-andrews/5400598
Independent doctors could be called in to reassess disability pensioners, Federal Government says
The Federal Government is considering using independent doctors to examine disability pensioners and assess whether they should continue to receive payments.
Currently family doctors provide reports supporting claims for the Disability Support Pension (DSP).
But Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews is considering a measure that would see independent doctors reassess eligibility.
"We are concerned that where people can work, the best form of welfare is work," Mr Andrews said at a press conference.
on 14-04-2015 12:30 PM
Spoken/written today - does our Govt - refer to the Abbott Govt?.. without a doubt to me, it does.
Opening post (April 2014, Abbott govt in power) of this thread starts with:
As it's more than 100 days now, it has been suggested that a new thread was needed. The current govt has been breaking promises and telling lies at a rate so fast it's hard to keep up.......................
on 14-04-2015 12:35 PM
Mr Abbott said.
"It is, as I stress, a capacity training mission not a training mission, but Iraq is a dangerous place.
"It is a dangerous place and I can't tell you that this is risk-free."
on 14-04-2015 12:49 PM
Anyway back to the approved debate period.
Good to see an interest in climate matters herein, but I suspect the tone was what actually appealed:
"Australia Misses March Deadline To Submit New Emissions Reduction Target For Paris Climate Deal"
"ABC News 6 Sept 2013 (sorry about the forbidden history)
Both ALP and the Coalition agree on the science of climate change, and have formally backed Australia's emissions reduction target of 5 per cent by 2020. But there are some differences:
"Anyway D9275, accepting that Australia's possibly revised targets (emissions) will be announced Sept 2015 what figure(s) would you accept/prefer for our carbon emissions reduction? Do you think the general target limit of 2°C for global temperature rise is achievable, or like myself believe it is another political global talk-fest similar those which commenced with Kyoto?"
I know, the headline was yummy, the content pfttttt.
However as a follow up I thought there might be some interest as to the effect all the talk-fests and announcements apropos CO2 reduction have had since Kyoto (The Kyoto Protocol was adopted in Kyoto, Japan, on 11 December 1999)
It shows a positive accelerating slope,also a decadal mean increase at the beginning of around 1 ppm/yr which is now 2 ppm/yr.
Global population increase coupled with life-style advancement of 3rd world countries will perpetuate the trend indicated above.
Attempt to reduce emissions by all means, but governments should face up to the inevitable and plan to adapt/mitigate the inevitable effects of global warming.
on 14-04-2015 01:34 PM
Just popped in to see if it was graph time again (12.30-1pm)... bingo!
As I suspected:
Abbott government vaccination plan won't work: expert
'The Abbott government's tough new stance on immunisation will only increase vaccination rates by an "absolute maximum of one per cent," a Sydney immunisation expert says.
University of Sydney associate professor Julie Leask said the federal government's move to prevent parents who don't vaccinate their children from accessing childcare payments and family tax benefits would not have a "meaningful" impact on overall immunisation rates.
Professor Leask said about 2 per cent of parents were currently registered as conscientious objectors to immunisation and of those, half were "hard core" while the other half would still give their children some vaccines.
She said that the hard core group would not be moved by the new policy, with only those who were partial objectors potentially open to changing their view.
Professor Leask said that there was a much larger group of parents - of about 4 or 5 per cent - who did not vaccinate their children or keep them updated for practical or logistical reasons.
"They're already targeted by the current policy [setting]," she said.
Professor Leask said the government should focus on removing "practical barriers to immunisation", such as a better reminder system for parents, more flexible clinic hours and a focus on culturally respectful health services. She said a particular focus should be on refugee and migrant catch-up services. "
14-04-2015 02:05 PM - edited 14-04-2015 02:07 PM
"As I suspected:
Abbott government vaccination plan won't work: expert"
As I suspected.
No research.
The expert did not say the plan " won't work" she is reported as saying:
"'The Abbott government's tough new stance on immunisation will only increase vaccination rates by an "absolute maximum of one per cent,"
Would not any increase be good?
More research (sorry)
Safety of children paramount in public policy: Opposition
Under the policy which the coalition took to the last election, and which is supported by Labor, "conscientious objection" would no longer be allowed for parents who refuse to vaccinate their children but still want to receive child care payments and family tax benefit supplements.
Opposition Leader Bill Shorten said it was a sensible step.
"We believe fundamentally in the science of vaccinations and we fundamentally believe that policy should be made by the best evidence and the best science," he said.
14-04-2015 02:17 PM - edited 14-04-2015 02:19 PM
Right on cue again with the nit picking, underlining, red letters and regular attack for the sake of it.
There are plenty of other threads. Why limit your attacks to this one?
And why attack the poster about the newspaper article headline?
on 14-04-2015 02:19 PM
The no jab, no pay -- policy won't reduce the % of children that aren't getting immunised now.
14-04-2015 02:29 PM - edited 14-04-2015 02:29 PM
No jab. no pay - 4 word slogan - all noise and no substance. Gives The Daily Tele something to make misleading, sensationalised headlines about. thati's about it
Anti-vaccination parents face $15,000 welfare hit under ‘No Jab’ reforms
TDT
Parents who aren't eligble for welfare ... FTB or don't use paid childcare for their children... what is this big threat going to do to encourage them to immunise their children? ZIP
on 14-04-2015 02:37 PM
Is that image like the ones on the rear window of cars?
Monman with lipstick, 2 children and 3 animals in your household?
on 14-04-2015 02:54 PM
"The no jab, no pay -- policy won't reduce the % of children that aren't getting immunised now."
Yes of course (right now), but it will most probably in the future.
According to the "expert" "'The Abbott government's tough new stance on immunisation will only increase vaccination rates by an "absolute maximum of one per cent,"
I do have doubts when an "expert" announces a definitive figure based upon nothing other than an educated guess with absolutely no datasets or research (sorry) to underwrite the statement.