on 20-04-2014 10:21 PM
As it's more than 100 days now, it has been suggested that a new thread was needed. The current govt has been breaking promises and telling lies at a rate so fast it's hard to keep up.
This below is worrying, "independent" pffft, as if your own doctor is somehow what? biased, it's ridiculous. So far there is talk of only including people under a certain age 30-35, for now. Remember that if your injured in a car, injured at work or get ill, you too might need to go on the DSP. They have done a similar think in the UK with devastating consequences.
and this is the 2nd time recently where the Govt has referred to work as welfare???? So when you go to work tomorrow (or tuesday), just remember that's welfare.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-20/disability-pensioners-may-be-reassessed-kevin-andrews/5400598
Independent doctors could be called in to reassess disability pensioners, Federal Government says
The Federal Government is considering using independent doctors to examine disability pensioners and assess whether they should continue to receive payments.
Currently family doctors provide reports supporting claims for the Disability Support Pension (DSP).
But Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews is considering a measure that would see independent doctors reassess eligibility.
"We are concerned that where people can work, the best form of welfare is work," Mr Andrews said at a press conference.
02-05-2014 03:03 PM - edited 02-05-2014 03:03 PM
@monman12 wrote:"And you would know as well as anyone else that that claim is a big fat lie. The aged pension is not an ever increasing burdon that we can't afford."
"And you would know as well as anyone else that that claim is a big fat lie" What claim would that be FN?
"The aged pension is not an ever increasing burdon that we can't afford." What economic nonsense.
"Like many other advanced nations, Australia is facing a demographic tsunami that threatens to cripple government finances. The large-scale retirement of the baby boomer generation means that the ratio of working-age Australians supporting dependents (mostly the aged) will shrink over coming decades, slashing the tax base at the same time as age-related outlays expand'
Increasing numbers of people have super funds and are not going to be reliant on the pension. The baby boomer generation will be the last of those who were trained to believe the pension was a reward for working hard and paying taxes. The younger ones have been paying into super funds their entire working life so they can fund their own retirement.
on 02-05-2014 08:58 PM
to freaky:
@monman12 wrote:"And you would know as well as anyone else that that claim is a big fat lie. The aged pension is not an ever increasing burdon that we can't afford."
"And you would know as well as anyone else that that claim is a big fat lie" What claim would that be FN?
"The aged pension is not an ever increasing burdon that we can't afford." What economic nonsense.
"Like many other advanced nations, Australia is facing a demographic tsunami that threatens to cripple government finances. The large-scale retirement of the baby boomer generation means that the ratio of working-age Australians supporting dependents (mostly the aged) will shrink over coming decades, slashing the tax base at the same time as age-related outlays expand'
Increasing numbers of people have super funds and are not going to be reliant on the pension. The baby boomer generation will be the last of those who were trained to believe the pension was a reward for working hard and paying taxes. The younger ones have been paying into super funds their entire working life so they can fund their own retirement.
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............maybe....but what guarantees do both low and high level contributors to their super funds have that the govt in the future and their banker & corporation cronie buddies won't 'invent' a reason, without notice, to heavily and greedily 'dip' into superannuation funds because e.g. there is a GFC.....or another 'levy' needs to be paid....??!.....Has happened.
on 02-05-2014 09:15 PM
on 02-05-2014 09:18 PM
Super has always been a bit tricky as lots have lost alot in the past.
The family home shouldn't be touched in my opinion.
Love bumping up the pension age, love getting rid of one of the family benefits, now someone needs to do something about dole bludgers.
I think putting a "levy" on doctors visits is good too, why don't they up the medicare levy a bit too.
on 02-05-2014 09:56 PM
Now............unmarried mothers pension should be next.
on 02-05-2014 10:05 PM
@crystal**flake wrote:Super has always been a bit tricky as lots have lost alot in the past.
The family home shouldn't be touched in my opinion.
Love bumping up the pension age, love getting rid of one of the family benefits, now someone needs to do something about dole bludgers.
I think putting a "levy" on doctors visits is good too, why don't they up the medicare levy a bit too.
on 02-05-2014 10:06 PM
@crystal**flake wrote:Now............unmarried mothers pension should be next.
unmarried mothers pension? It's 2014.
on 02-05-2014 10:44 PM
@boris1gary wrote:
@crystal**flake wrote:Now............unmarried mothers pension should be next.
unmarried mothers pension? It's 2014.
What is it called a **bleep** name now
on 02-05-2014 10:54 PM
@crystal**flake wrote:
@boris1gary wrote:
@crystal**flake wrote:Now............unmarried mothers pension should be next.
unmarried mothers pension? It's 2014.
What is it called a **bleep** name now
well i don't know what a bleep name is but maybe you mean sole parent benefit. When i was in highschool i had a friend who's mum had done a runner, there was little to no full time work around at the time (mum had moved us to the bush for a short while), there were 5 girls and the Dad. He did everything and anything he could for a quid, he couldn't get any kind of sole parent pension payment at all because he was a bloke, they were the poorest people i have probably ever known personally. I suppose to some he was just a bludger.
on 03-05-2014 08:29 AM
http://theaimn.com/2014/05/02/abbott-uses-societys-vulnerable-as-means-to-an-ideological-end/
Abbott uses society’s vulnerable as means to an ideological end
Can anybody make any sense out of what this government doing? asks Jennifer Wilson.
It seems to me that it’s a core conservative tradition to use the most vulnerable people in society as a means to an ideological end. There are endless current examples of this: threats to pensions, restricted access to Newstart for unemployed youth, destruction of universal healthcare, proposed reduction of the minimum wage and a cap on that wage for the next ten years, all part of the Commission of Audit’s recommendations to the Abbott government prior to its first budget in a couple of weeks.
None of these measures will affect anyone as disastrously as they will affect the poor, and while middle class journalists on a good wage, some of whom are Abbott’s most vocal supporters, scream like stuck pigs about the flagged “debt levy” on incomes over $80,000, nobody much is pointing out the ideologically-based, systematic crippling of the lives of those who struggle hardest to keep poverty from their doors.
Conservatives seem to hold the ideological position that poverty is a moral failing, for which the individual is solely accountable, and if that individual has been incapable of taking care of her or himself and his or her family, they’ve no one to blame but themselves. If they do sink into a morass of underprivileged misery then they ought to be able to find ways to redeem themselves. If they don’t manage this feat, they obviously only deserve what little they get, and the conservative will do his or her best to take even that away.