Diary of our stinking Govt.

[boris1gary]

As it's more than 100 days now, it has been suggested that a new thread was needed.  The current govt has been breaking promises and telling lies at a rate so fast it's hard to keep up.

This below is worrying, "independent" pffft, as if your own doctor is somehow what? biased, it's ridiculous. So far there is talk of only including people under a certain age 30-35, for now. Remember that if your injured in a car, injured at work or get ill, you too might need to go on the DSP. They have done a similar think in the UK with devastating consequences.

and this is the 2nd time recently where the Govt has referred to work as welfare???? So when you go to work tomorrow (or tuesday), just remember that's welfare.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-20/disability-pensioners-may-be-reassessed-kevin-andrews/5400598

Independent doctors could be called in to reassess disability pensioners, Federal Government says

The Federal Government is considering using independent doctors to examine disability pensioners and assess whether they should continue to receive payments.

Currently family doctors provide reports supporting claims for the Disability Support Pension (DSP).

But Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews is considering a measure that would see independent doctors reassess eligibility.

"We are concerned that where people can work, the best form of welfare is work," Mr Andrews said at a press conference.

[Anonymous]

You cannot have it both way; either it takes months or even years to establish if a person is a "real" refugee, or it can be done in few days. 

very good point.

i have no idea why it takes so long.

[monman12]

"i have no idea why it takes so long."

The information is readily found with some research (sorry).

PS

The Last "bunch" of Sri Lankans that were returned  (41 boaters) ALL admitted to being economic refugees.

nɥºɾ

[Anonymous]

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@monman12 wrote:

"i have no idea why it takes so long."

The information is readily found with some research (sorry).

PS

The Last "bunch" of Sri Lankans that were returned  (41 boaters) ALL admitted to being economic refugees.

nɥºɾ

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i meant in comparison to those

who are assessed within a couple of days

but then i'm only going by what that poster

claimed.

[debra9275]

Murdoch media insists public broadcaster ABC must be defunded. Today it's helping save lives in horrific fires

that is so true isn't it. I noticed that ABC emergency was tweeting throughout the night

great service

[cherry*135]

polks wrote: No-one "becomes" a refugee.  They just are.

Exactly it is not a life style choice.

I wrote a story in High School about a family fleeing from Bangladesh (1970's).

In the future there are just going to be more and more people fleeing from their home country, from Africa & Asia in particular, due to persecution, war, famine..

[cherry*135]

Human Rights Gov Au website

An asylum seeker is a person who has fled their own country and applied for protection as a refugee.

According to the Convention, a refugee is a person who is outside their own country and is unable or unwilling to return due to a well-founded fear of being persecuted because of their:

• race
• religion
• nationality
• membership of a particular social group or
• political opinion.

Migrants choose to leave their home country, and can choose where to go and when they might return to their home country.

Asylum seekers and refugees, on the other hand, flee their country for their own safety and cannot return unless the situation that forced them to leave improves.

What are Australia’s human rights obligations in relation to asylum seekers and refugees?

------------------------>>> Australia has international obligations to protect the human rights of all asylum seekers and refugees who arrive in Australia, regardless of how or where they arrive and whether they arrive with or without a visa

https://www.humanrights.gov.au/asylum-seekers-and-refugees-guide

[debra9275]

yes Am that's my take on it, anyone fleeing their home country is a called a refugee AFAIK

some of those boats were just turned around or the the people on board were loaded into those expensive life raft things without any assessment at all

[cherry*135]

This is the convention refered to in my previous post (same link as above). An Australian Government website. Blue text is from website (links).

The United Nations Convention relating to the Status of Refugees, as amended by its 1967 Protocol(the Refugee Convention), defines who is a refugee and sets out the basic rights that countries should guarantee to refugees.

What are Australia’s human rights obligations in relation to asylum seekers and refugees?

Australia has international obligations to protect the human rights of all asylum seekers and refugees who arrive in Australia, regardless of how or where they arrive and whether they arrive with or without a visa.

While asylum seekers and refugees are in Australian territory (or otherwise engage Australia's jurisdiction), the Australian Government has obligations under various international treaties to ensure that their human rights are respected and protected. These treaties include the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR), the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights (ICESCR), the Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment (CAT) and the Convention on the Rights of the Child (CRC). These rights include the right not to be arbitrarily detained.

As a party to the Refugee Convention, Australia has agreed to ensure that asylum seekers who meet the definition of a refugee are not sent back to a country where their life or freedom would be threatened. This is known as the principle of non-refoulement.

Australia also has obligations not to return people who face a real risk of violation of certain human rights under the ICCPR, the CAT and the CRC, and not to send people to third countries where they would face a real risk of violation of their human rights under these instruments. These obligations also apply to people who have not been found to be refugees.

For an overview of the key human rights issues that arise from Australia’s approach to asylum seekers and refugees, see the Commission’s recent publication Asylum seekers, refugees and human rights: snapshot report 2013.

[aps1080]

And those Sri Lankans that left india where som had lived for a few years were deemed not AS or Refugees,
They werent being persecuted in India, had jobs, places to live.

As most of them eventually admitted.

Only one was deemed eligible an he decided to go back anyway.
You wonder why he paid for the bat trip ???

[aps1080]

------------------------>>> Australia has international obligations to protect the human rights of all asylum seekers and refugees who arrive in Australia, regardless of how or where they arrive and whether they arrive with or without a visa



We do.

They live in nice, secure facilities, free of persecution, fed and watered, on a tropical island.