on 20-03-2015 08:17 AM
Labor frontbencher Andrew Leigh shifts position on previous support for a GP fee
Labor's shadow assistant treasurer Andrew Leigh was once a strong supporter of a compulsory fee for visits to the doctor - a policy now slammed by the opposition as a “GP tax” that would hurt the community’s most vulnerable.
But in a 2003 Sydney Morning Herald article Dr Leigh, then a PhD student in economics at Harvard University, argued a Medicare co-payment was “hardly a radical idea”.
“As health researchers have shown, cost-less medical care means that people go to the doctor even when they don't need to, driving up the cost for all of us," Dr Leigh and co-author Richard Holden wrote.
“But there's a better way of operating a health system, and the change should hardly hurt at all.
“As economists have shown, the ideal model involves a small co-payment - not enough to put a dent in your weekly budget, but enough to make you think twice before you call the doc."
Dr Leigh argued the fee should be enough to deter “frivolous GP visits”, but not enough to limit genuine preventive care. The fee should apply to everyone, including pensioners, except those who are chronically ill, he wrote.
Dr Leigh, who has opposed the proposal in media appearances over recent weeks, told Fairfax Media: "Since 2003, a lot has changed in the health care system, and I've changed my view on co-payments.
“A GP co-payment was originally a Hawke government proposal led by Brian Howe, a member of the Left faction,” he said.
“As long as it is applied fairly across the community, a co-payment is a perfectly valid policy measure. If Andrew Leigh, before he had to toe the party line, recognised that then I welcome his contribution to the debate. I respect Andrew Leigh as a sensible economist.”
On Saturday, Dr Leigh, a former professor of economics at the Australian National University, distanced himself from an article he wrote in 2004 supporting fee deregulation for universities – another policy opposed by Labor.
Yes, it’s the very well respected ALP whey-faced Dr Andrew Leigh who virtually declared his previous books and speeches as mere works of fiction. This brings into sharp focus Dr Leigh's economics degree.
on 03-05-2015 02:55 PM
@debra9275 wrote:what? the character Dulcinea?
has it occurred to you to say who you are calling a dulcinante and what you mean??
Dulcinante was Don Qixotes mule, that he used to ride while on his tilting at windmills missions. Dulcinante is described as a sour old bag of bones.
My meaning was that I often think of Am riding in to threads on her trusty old nag, Dulcinante, tilting at windmills.
Probably a bit obscure, but there you go.
on 03-05-2015 02:57 PM
how very nice- NOT
enjoy the rest of your day Icy
on 03-05-2015 03:00 PM
ok.
on 03-05-2015 04:17 PM
@icyfroth wrote:
@debra9275 wrote:what? the character Dulcinea?
has it occurred to you to say who you are calling a dulcinante and what you mean??
Dulcinante was Don Qixotes mule, that he used to ride while on his tilting at windmills missions. Dulcinante is described as a sour old bag of bones.
My meaning was that I often think of Am riding in to threads on her trusty old nag, Dulcinante, tilting at windmills.
Probably a bit obscure, but there you go.
Rosinante (Spanish Rocinante) was Don Quixote's horse. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Rosinante
So, yes, obscure to the point of incorrect.
on 03-05-2015 04:35 PM
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
@icyfroth wrote:
@debra9275 wrote:what? the character Dulcinea?
has it occurred to you to say who you are calling a dulcinante and what you mean??
Dulcinante was Don Qixotes mule, that he used to ride while on his tilting at windmills missions. Dulcinante is described as a sour old bag of bones.
My meaning was that I often think of Am riding in to threads on her trusty old nag, Dulcinante, tilting at windmills.
Probably a bit obscure, but there you go.
Rosinante (Spanish Rocinante) was Don Quixote's horse. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Rosinante
So, yes, obscure to the point of incorrect.
ok.
on 04-05-2015 10:28 PM
Anybody see Bill at the Knox institute and his speech?? populism at its worst and the cranky and inpatient Bill was on show, not to mention the put downs and derision he showed for certain questions.
What a phony and a political disgrace. All he can parrot is "fairness" he should read up on fairness, the world is not fair, politics is not fair and nobody on earth can make it all fair to all people all the time.
Every time he mouths it he looks more pathetic and desperate and totally out of touch with the headwinds Australia is facing.
The lollipops give aways so prevalent from past governments in no longer sustainable but hear the screams of "unfair" whenever an unsustainable hand out looks like facing the chop.
on 04-05-2015 11:17 PM
@ladydeburg wrote:Anybody see Bill at the Knox institute and his speech?? populism at its worst and the cranky and inpatient Bill was on show, not to mention the put downs and derision he showed for certain questions.
Is he an inpatient of Knox Institute?
05-05-2015 10:03 AM - edited 05-05-2015 10:04 AM
Ms Plibersek’s procrustean solution to the vexing issue of gay marriage is typical of the lack of understanding of the word democracy. In a democracy MPs are supposed to reflect the views of the people they represent rather than their own views or the views of the party. If Ms Plibersek’s aim to ram this through the ALP National Conference wins approval all she will have achieved is to underline how pyrrhonism is rampant in our political system.
Chapter 12 National Constitution of the ALP
Objectives 2 The Australian Labor Party is a democratic socialist party and has the objective of the democratic socialisation of industry, production, distribution and exchange, to the extent necessary to eliminate exploitation and other anti-social features in these fields.
http://www.alp.org.au/national_platform
Plibersek pushes to axe Labor Party conscience vote on same-sex marriage
Acting Labor leader Tanya Plibersek is leading a push to axe the conscience vote on same-sex marriage for MPs and senators, arguing it is a matter of legal equality
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Ms Plibersek told the ABC's AM program that while Labor allowed free votes on issues including abortion and euthanasia, gay marriage was different.
"This is not that type of issue; this is an issue about legal equality," she said.
"When you're talking about an issue like this, which is about legal discrimination, it is important for the Labor party to say 'we don't agree with legal discrimination'."
In 2011, the party's platform was amended to reflect its support for changing the Marriage Act to include "all adult couples irrespective of sex".
But its national conference voted 208 to 184 to allow MPs and senators the right to opt out if it came to a vote in Parliament.
on 05-05-2015 10:18 AM
She's pandering and we all know that pandering is what she does best, pander to her inner city electorate who think it's cool to spout gay marriage to the detriment of the majority of Australians who are against it.
Personally I wish it was passed , it's another wedge factor that should have been dealt with years ago. Get it done and the sooner the better for all who want it, but I'm afraid a conscience vote will see it fail that's why Plibersek want to force her members to push it through.
Even Gillard saw the wisdom of it being a conscience vote but she didn't have the ticker to take it to the vote in Parliament because she knew it would fail.
on 08-05-2015 06:45 PM