Displacing Indigenous Australians

[donnashuggy]

I'm extremely confused, are they or aren't they?

[the*scarlet*pimpernel]

darnit, I really should stay out of here,

They are not provided with all this for NOTHING

nope, but they do get remote area tax concessions, they get allowances for travelling to medical services, they do get financial aid because of their remoteness, and those white fellas people living on those outback stations, well I reckon that is a lifestyle choice.

[bushies.girl]

Well good for you 🙂

[rabbitearbandicoot]

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@the*scarlet*pimpernel wrote:

darnit, I really should stay out of here,

They are not provided with all this for NOTHING

nope, but they do get remote area tax concessions, they get allowances for travelling to medical services, they do get financial aid because of their remoteness, and those white fellas people living on those outback stations, well I reckon that is a lifestyle choice.

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of course it's a lifestyle choice - no-one is debating that and the Aboriginals who prefer to live on a remote settlement is ALSO A LIFESTYLE CHOICE (as our beloved leader have been berated over for weeks). They have every right to make their own choices, but do they have the right to demand special treatment and that someone else pay for their choices - any more than anyone else does? 

Also, I would assume that the farmers who get tax concessions are productive and paying tax? They are also the major part of our food production chain.  'No farmers - No food' - isn't that a bumper sticker?. 

If I bought a farm out west somewhere, and proceedeed to sit on my verandah and do nothing,  would I have the right to demand support from everyone else including the government, and my tax concessions.

Anyway, I am tired of this. 

[azureline**]

Community spirit is sadly lacking in some people.
It reads like..... the indigenous folk are getting something and they want it too.

[myoclon1cjerk · Accepted solution]

They want them out of the way so they can dig up the resources.

[polksaladallie]

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@bushies.girl wrote:

Most of those people be working, paying tax, paying a medicare levy, paying to build their houses, paying to see a doctor, paying to be in hospital, paying to have their essential services connected/installed.

Kids living there are able to be educated via home schooling, via the net, all paid for by their parents.

They are not provided with all this for NOTHING

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The RFDS is free, hospitals are free (unless they choose otherwise), school is free, they also get government handouts if they are eligible, they get government farming subsidies, etc, etc.

Apples and oranges

[i-need-a-martini]

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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

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@the*scarlet*pimpernel wrote:

darnit, I really should stay out of here,

They are not provided with all this for NOTHING

nope, but they do get remote area tax concessions, they get allowances for travelling to medical services, they do get financial aid because of their remoteness, and those white fellas people living on those outback stations, well I reckon that is a lifestyle choice.

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of course it's a lifestyle choice - no-one is debating that and the Aboriginals who prefer to live on a remote settlement is ALSO A LIFESTYLE CHOICE (as our beloved leader have been berated over for weeks). They have every right to make their own choices, but do they have the right to demand special treatment and that someone else pay for their choices - any more than anyone else does? 

Also, I would assume that the farmers who get tax concessions are productive and paying tax? They are also the major part of our food production chain.  'No farmers - No food' - isn't that a bumper sticker?. 

If I bought a farm out west somewhere, and proceedeed to sit on my verandah and do nothing,  would I have the right to demand support from everyone else including the government, and my tax concessions.

Anyway, I am tired of this. 

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Yeah I am pretty tired of having to repea the same answers on this boards over and over again.

See my post no.69 in response to above.

[idlewhile]

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@polksaladallie wrote:

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@bushies.girl wrote:

Most of those people be working, paying tax, paying a medicare levy, paying to build their houses, paying to see a doctor, paying to be in hospital, paying to have their essential services connected/installed.

Kids living there are able to be educated via home schooling, via the net, all paid for by their parents.

They are not provided with all this for NOTHING

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The RFDS is free, hospitals are free (unless they choose otherwise), school is free, they also get government handouts if they are eligible, they get government farming subsidies, etc, etc.

Apples and oranges

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Not one thing you mentioned is free. We all pay for these services one way or another. The RFDS is subsidised and they also rely on fund raising to keep going.

Farmers and graziers are the backbone of this country and they pay taxes just like all of us. If they get fuel subsidies well they deserve it, urban welfare recipients and remote communities  do not contribute.

So apples and oranges?

It can't be compared to sit down money that has destroyed the aboriginal race, never allowed them to catch up, drugs, alcohol and petrol sniffing has ruined families and sexual abuse and violence is just a normal part of everyday life for some.

If the gap is to be closed, then all aboriginal people need to get up, get out of the destructive cycle and enter the 21st century.

This will never happen, has not happened even though billions of dollars has been thrown at it, it's time to take another direction even if they don't like it it's better than doing nothing for another 200years.

[idlewhile]

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@myoclon1cjerk wrote:
They want them out of the way so they can dig up the resources.

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Normally I wouldn't reply to this type of cynical and mendacious statement but this type of thinking should be challenged.

They can use the resources themselves but they are cynically manipulated by Greens and Labor and by the one or two savvy abs that have any clue and are doing it to further their own objectives.

They destroy any chance for them to self determine, they are left sitting in the dirt again and again  because they are lied to and humbugged by a few who have a totally different agenda and it doesn't include helping the indigenous people. A like the statement from the member I am rebutting.

[idlewhile]

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@bushies.girl wrote:
🙂 🙂 🙂

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Don't let them bully you off the thread. You are entitled to your opinion and whether others agree with it or not. Bullying is against cs and should be exposed.