Displacing Indigenous Australians

[donnashuggy]

I'm extremely confused, are they or aren't they?

[idlewhile]

We don't "rent" this country, we belong to this country just like anybody else.

Perpetrating the black armband view of history is what has seen the destruction of the indiginous people and I find your graphic and its print totally racist and demeaning to Aboriginals.

[i-need-a-martini]

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@idlewhile wrote:

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@myoclon1cjerk wrote:
They want them out of the way so they can dig up the resources.

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Normally I wouldn't reply to this type of cynical and mendacious statement but this type of thinking should be challenged.

They can use the resources themselves but they are cynically manipulated by Greens and Labor and by the one or two savvy abs that have any clue and are doing it to further their own objectives.

They destroy any chance for them to self determine, they are left sitting in the dirt again and again  because they are lied to and humbugged by a few who have a totally different agenda and it doesn't include helping the indigenous people. A like the statement from the member I am rebutting.

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I wish you knew more about indigenous culture, contemporary way of life and politics cause then you might be able to write something sensible.

Firstly, indigenous people have too much respect for the land to "use" it's resources. Taking care of the land is a fundamental way of life for them and it is a shame that we haven't watched and learnt instead of desecrating and "using" our natural resources.

Secondly, you clearly have no idea about aboriginal culture if you think they do not "self determine" or spend their days "sitting in the dirt". Their communities are self governed and very productive. The only "agenda" being imposed on them is the one by the Federal and WA governments who have decided that they should assimililate. And the disastrous effects of assimilation through history up until modern times speak for themselves.

[i-need-a-martini]

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@idlewhile wrote:

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It can't be compared to sit down money that has destroyed the aboriginal race, never allowed them to catch up, drugs, alcohol and petrol sniffing has ruined families and sexual abuse and violence is just a normal part of everyday life for some.

If the gap is to be closed, then all aboriginal people need to get up, get out of the destructive cycle and enter the 21st century.

This will never happen, has not happened even though billions of dollars has been thrown at it, it's time to take another direction even if they don't like it it's better than doing nothing for another 200years.

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It's fascinating that you can't make the distinction between what goes on in a tradional settlement and the stereotype you have of indigenous people who have been forced to live outside of their traditional values.

All those things you mentioned above, they may occurr once in a blue moon in a traditional settlement. But they are mainly the behaviour of a small group of indigenous people living on the fringes of white 'civilisation' and in towns.

By closing settlements you are forcing displaced people to live in conditions that will see them tempted by the very things you have mentioned above.

[idlewhile]

[i-need-a-martini]

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@idlewhile wrote:

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This (or 3 rows of smilies or "I can't be bothered" or "I am being bullied") seems to be the standard post when you guys can't actually come up with a credible or intelligent response.

Now THAT is worth a .

[idlewhile]

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

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@idlewhile wrote:

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It can't be compared to sit down money that has destroyed the aboriginal race, never allowed them to catch up, drugs, alcohol and petrol sniffing has ruined families and sexual abuse and violence is just a normal part of everyday life for some.

If the gap is to be closed, then all aboriginal people need to get up, get out of the destructive cycle and enter the 21st century.

This will never happen, has not happened even though billions of dollars has been thrown at it, it's time to take another direction even if they don't like it it's better than doing nothing for another 200years.

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It's fascinating that you can't make the distinction between what goes on in a tradional settlement and the stereotype you have of indigenous people who have been forced to live outside of their traditional values.

All those things you mentioned above, they may occurr once in a blue moon in a traditional settlement. But they are mainly the behaviour of a small group of indigenous people living on the fringes of white 'civilisation' and in towns.

By closing settlements you are forcing displaced people to live in conditions that will see them tempted by the very things you have mentioned above.

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By your very utterances it proves that you know nothing about traditional Aborigines.

All I see from you is the self perpetuating  urban myths whites like to put out about the truth of the plight of indigenous people, you don't  have a clue what really goes on in these remote camps.

I will not put my credentials out on here but I can assure you they are impeccable re Australian Indidginous people and the dire circumstances they live in day after day whilst people like you want to keep them there.

[bushies.girl]

I dont discuss ANYTHING with nasty, aggressive people

[idlewhile]

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

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@idlewhile wrote:

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This (or 3 rows of smilies or "I can't be bothered" or "I am being bullied") seems to be the standard post when you guys can't actually come up with a credible or intelligent response.

Now THAT is worth a .

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I am not the one who bullied another member.

[i-need-a-martini]

No urban myths in my life. I talk from experience.

I've travelled to remote settlements and and had the amazing priviledge of staying in isolated indigenous communities. The most recent last September to document housing with a friend who is photographing indigenous traditional housing.

When was the last time you spent time with an indigenous group in an isolated settlement?

(And, no, driving past the Todd River in Alice Springs in your airconditioned car on your way to somewhere else does not count).

[*mrgrizz*]

just remember you must be politically correct to post here

welfare wouldn't give me a cent if I choose to live miles from the nearest job, let alone build me a house.