on 21-03-2013 12:24 PM
on 21-03-2013 09:14 PM
The people in the crowd who got upset about it ?
on 21-03-2013 09:15 PM
So does calling them pitiful and too sensitive doesn't it ?
where did that statement come from?
i must have missed something again
on 21-03-2013 09:15 PM
What's wrong with simply saying mothers?
That sounds fair.
on 21-03-2013 09:23 PM
That sounds fair.
Okay.
So the sperm donors should be referred to as father.
The BIRTH part is to distinguish between who gave birth/created the child and who raised the child. To take offence is to trivialise the entire being of the child. Both parts are worth acknowledging, but not one over the other.
on 21-03-2013 09:30 PM
The term he used was birth parents, wasn't it? No doubt there were some fathers who were more than sperm donors.
on 21-03-2013 09:32 PM
The BIRTH part is to distinguish between who gave birth/created the child and who raised the child.
But the whole occasion had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with distinguishing between who created and who raised the child.
as pepe said, the wrong words for the situation, without malice or ill intent, he apologised.
on 21-03-2013 09:33 PM
Okay.
So the sperm donors should be referred to as father.
The BIRTH part is to distinguish between who gave birth/created the child and who raised the child. To take offence is to trivialise the entire being of the child. Both parts are worth acknowledging, but not one over the other.
Yes.....
The birth mother is the biological mother of a child, any child.
on 21-03-2013 09:41 PM
So out of this amazing and heart felt day this line is all that you can focus on hey OP???
I guess that shows what you are trying to do..
I heard that Gillard's speech was really good... even more so that she was under all this leadership speculation...
I appreciate the media for not focusing on this unintentional upset that Abbott called.. I too would have called the women "birth mothers" to distinguish them from the adoptive mother....
both of them mothers.. both of them loved their child.....
on 21-03-2013 09:42 PM
But the whole occasion had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with distinguishing between who created and who raised the child.
as pepe said, the wrong words for the situation, without malice or ill intent, he apologised.
exactly .It was wording used in an apology given to the parents who had their children forcibly taken from them...denying them their right and choice to be parents to that child (to be more than birth parents).As you said earlier it isn't hard to understand how some may have found birth parents unsuitable in this situation.
Nothing to do with acknowledging the adoptive parents
on 21-03-2013 09:45 PM
there is a thread about the apology if anyone wants to ,as Cats Back suggests focus more on this amazing heartfelt day