Do you think large polluters should be punished?

[donnashuggy]

Is this making it too easy for them?

http://www.skynews.com.au/topstories/article.aspx?id=939851&vId=

[*crikey*mate*]

just really simplified

Lets say that Sweeden's #1 source of income is education... #2 banking, #3 Tourism.... (I don't know, I haven't researched, but you get the idea)

Now this source of income doesn't produce much Co2/pollution etc

and lets say their 3 worst money earners are coal, iron and cheese...

higher pollution contributors, but minors in their economy....

now they can afford to impose massive taxes on their emissions, cos they can afford to **bleep** off those who earn the least for them.

Then there is us, our top 3 are Iron, coal and gold. high pollutants, but 1/3 of our export income.

our bottom 3, telecom and ICT, alcohol, and going backwards at 8 and 3% respectively, so worth even less, and transport services.....

Can you see the difference in just this? The people we can afford to **bleep** off, are at the bottom of our food chain, whereas the ones we have to keep happy are a huge chunk at the top....

that's why it is difficult to campare economies in that manner from one perspective. it's fine to say sweedon does this and UK does that, but they have a different structure to us... what is important to us, is not important to them.

[izabsmiling]

Perhaps our  GBR and marine life is in a different category to some than the other native flora and fauna they may advocate strongly for ?

[nevynreally]

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@izabsmiling wrote:

Perhaps our  GBR and marine life is in a different category to some than the other native flora and fauna they may advocate strongly for ?

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No, it wasn't. Some just don't understand how businesses work. And the government of this country should be run like it was a business, and not like a group of kids got access to the local lolly shop.

 Anyway, over the passive aggressive posts, and the C & Ps. If people agree with you all the time, you're doing something wrong.

[freshwater-2]

When all the trees have been cut down

When all the animals have been hunted

When all the waters are polluted

When all the air is unsafe to breathe

Only then will you discover that you cannot eat money

(Cree Prophecy)

[freshwater-2]

My apologie for the large font.

[icyfroth]

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@izabsmiling wrote:

.Perhaps our  GBR and marine life is in a different category to some than the other native flora and fauna they may advocate strongly for ?

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Crikey makes a valid argument.

To have prosperity you must have industry.  Industry provides employment and provides revenue for governments via taxes. 

Ideally governments in turn will use those funds to provide infrastructure and services for the population and those socially disadvantaged.

It's up to the industries and the governments to strike a balance between production and pollution.

Penalising industries is not the solution.

Incentivising industry to find better ways of minimising the impact of their waste on the environment is much more constructive.

[izabsmiling]

Committee Decisions 37COM 7B.10 Great Barrier Reef (Australia) (N 154)

8.Further requests the State Party to submit to the World Heritage Centre, by 1 February 2014, an updated report on the state of conservation of the property, including on the implementation of actions outlined above as well as on the other points raised in the 2012 mission report, for examination by the World Heritage Committee at its 38th session in 2014, with a view to considering, in the absence of substantial progress, the inscription of the property on the List of World Heritage in Danger.

http://whc.unesco.org/en/decisions/4959

 that updated report is not looking promising imo

[lakeland27]

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@izabsmiling wrote:

.Perhaps our  GBR and marine life is in a different category to some than the other native flora and fauna they may advocate strongly for ?

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Crikey makes a valid argument.

To have prosperity you must have industry.  Industry provides employment and provides revenue for governments via taxes. 

Ideally governments in turn will use those funds to provide infrastructure and services for the population and those socially disadvantaged.

It's up to the industries and the governments to strike a balance between production and pollution.

Penalising industries is not the solution.

Incentivising industry to find better ways of minimising the impact of their waste on the environment is much more constructive.

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 a carbon trading scheme is the best method. i agree with abbott on that. so do most sensible people, so why did he change his mind ? power is more important to him it seems. kick the drongo out.

[*crikey*mate*]

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@izabsmiling wrote:

.Perhaps our  GBR and marine life is in a different category to some than the other native flora and fauna they may advocate strongly for ?

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at no time did I suggest that you may not be acceptable, I questioned how many people may be as adaptable as we are able to be, simply because iof the field of our employment and a few well placed friends.

and now you have just resorted to twisting what I say and taking personal pot shots at people because they kudoed a post LOLOLOL

you seriously check that stuff?

O.M.G.....

cya.....

[*crikey*mate*]

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@izabsmiling wrote:

Committee Decisions 37COM 7B.10 Great Barrier Reef (Australia) (N 154)

8.Further requests the State Party to submit to the World Heritage Centre, by 1 February 2014, an updated report on the state of conservation of the property, including on the implementation of actions outlined above as well as on the other points raised in the 2012 mission report, for examination by the World Heritage Committee at its 38th session in 2014, with a view to considering, in the absence of substantial progress, the inscription of the property on the List of World Heritage in Danger.

http://whc.unesco.org/en/decisions/4959

 that updated report is not looking promising imo

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take your updated report down to centrelink and see how much currency it has there when you need a job or some food or some health care.. or