on โ30-06-2014 07:03 PM
Carney was photographed in the bathroom of Cronulla nightclub Northies, believed to be on Saturday night, urinating towards his mouth while standing at a urinal. It is the latest scandal in his drama-plagued career.
on โ30-06-2014 08:13 PM
no i don't think he should have been sacked for that - it was gross and stupid but he didn't deserve to lose his livelihood over it.
he needs to choose his friends better though.
on โ30-06-2014 09:14 PM
@**what_would_bob_do** wrote:
Carney was photographed in the bathroom of Cronulla nightclub Northies, believed to be on Saturday night, urinating towards his mouth while standing at a urinal. It is the latest scandal in his drama-plagued career.
I didn't know it was his own mouth - or otherwise that it was his own wee if ya get my drift
Must have freakin good aim - the males in my house have trouble hitting a target the size of a toilet bowl, far less one as small as their mouths!
But yes, he deserves to be sacked.
He is high profile and even though people have drank their own urine and used it for medicinal purposes in the past, it is not socially acceptable in modern mainstream society.
Sport is supposed to be a clean image, and these high profile people are figureheads of their chosen sport.
He's not a backyard fotty player, he is a well known one probably receiving a commensurate pay packet as well - so maintaining the public image of clean sport and wholesome reps for your employers and sponsors is part of the package.
I want my kids to associate a lot of things with sport, not something that really ought to be reserved for your private interests
This extends to these figureheads being drunk and idiotic whilst in public - not just acts such as this - there are numerous examples of sportspeople who behave inappropriately and give sport by association a bad name
on โ01-07-2014 05:30 AM
So what is the definition of a "chance" and frequency...once a month, once a year, once in a lifetime....for mine
chances are listed in red...... not just chances to play sport...chances in life............ chances to show the community
remorse for the crimes committed.... Carney has not just snubbed his nose at authority but he is treating society with the
same disdain
....... Do you know a sure fire way not to get caught on film performing lurid acts.....DO NOT PERFORM LURID
ACTS...EVER...SIMPLE...who would like to bet that Carney has performed many many many lurid acts that will never
come to the public's attention. I quote from Danny Wielders interview with him
"aww me mates had seen me do it heaps of times before and ...you know...."
**bleep** ???
To apportion any blame to the photographer is like blaming the car when somebody has an
accident full of grog.
The only blame to be apportioned to the NRL or any club should be their lackadaisical approach to prior alcohol bans
by where any reading of alcohol at anytime by Carney should have meant contract forfieture...regardless of his skill..
THE STRIFE AND TIMES OF CRONULLA BAD BOY TODD CARNEY
June 1986
Born and raised in Goulburn.
June 2004
Debuts as an 18-year-old for the Canberra Raiders against Canterbury at Bluetongue Stadium.
December 2006
Carney is charged with mid-range drink driving and reckless driving following an incident in Goulburn.
February 2007
Licence suspended for five years.
May 2007
Carney and teammate Steve Irwin lead Canberra police on a car chase before Carney abandons the car and flees. Carney is charged with drink driving and reckless driving, failing to stop when directed by police, negligent driving and driving while disqualified. He receives a suspended jail sentence.
May 2007
Raiders put Carney on a rehabilitation plan.
June 2007
Handed 200 hours of community service for pursuit and driving while his licence was suspended. Magistrate warns Carney he will โundoubtedly go to jailโ if he commits another offence.
July 2008
Carney allegedly urinates on a patron at a Canberra pub, however the complaint is withdrawn. He is, however, stood down indefinitely.
Aug 2008
Handed a five-point rehabilitation plan with a clause that he cannot play again that season and must go on an alcohol ban until the end of 2012.
Aug 2008
While suspended by the club, allegedly evicted from Goulburn club.
Aug 2008
Has contract terminated by the Raiders, with the NRL vowing not to register a contract with another club for 2009.
February 2009
Carney damages a vehicle and receives a 12-month suspended jail sentence.
March 2009
Carney moves to North Queensland town of Atherton, where he works in a pub and plays football in the local competition.
March 2009
Rumours emerge that Carney will sign with the Sydney Roosters
April 2009
Nude photos of Todd Carney leak online after photos appeared on a second-hand mobile phone leant to a female customer by a Telstra shop
May 2009
Carney is in an altercation outside a pub in Atherton, is arrested but later released without charge.
January 2010
Carney and a second man allegedly injure another man by deliberately setting his pants on fire. The man suffered burns to his buttocks, upper thigh and genitalia.
June 2010
Police allegedly see Jake Friend hand a pill to Carney on a Saturday night. Officers then search the pair, allegedly finding a packet of seven Valium tablets on Friend. No pills were found on Carney and he is released without charges.
September 2010
Carney is named the seasonโs Dally M Medallist for the NRLโs best player, as well as the Provan-Summons (peopleโs choice) award before the Roosters lose the grand final to St George Illawarra 32-8.
November 2010
Carney receives the Rugby League International Federationโs international player of the year award.
Makes his international debut in his only Test appearance for the Kangaroos against New Zealand in the Four Nations tournament.
anuary 2011
Carney splits with Seven Network television presenter Liz Cantor
February 2011
Roosters release a statement confirming Carney had been charged with low-range drink driving. The club decides to stick by him.
April 2011
Carney was found to be involved with teammate Anthony Watts when he was drinking and NRL management stand Carney down from Roosters indefinitely. He eventually returns in round 10.
August 2011
Carney, Nate Myles and Frank-Paul Nuuausala break Roosters agreement to not touch alcohol for two weeks after The Daily Telegraph reveals the trio were out drinking in the eastern suburbs. All three players face disciplinary hearings.
September 2011
The Roosters release Carney from the final year of his contract.
October 2011
Carney accepts a two-year contract with the Cronulla Sharks worth $700,000.
May 2012
Carney is selected in the NSW Origin team as five-eighth as the Blues lose the series 2-1, including a heartbreaking 21-20 game-three defeat at Suncorp Stadium.
June 2012
Carney starts dating waterskier-turned-boxer Lauryn Eagle.
April 2013
Carney and Eagle break-up.
May 2013
Carney signs a new five-year deal with the Sharks which would see him finish his career with the club.
June 2014
Carney is photographed engaging in a graphic act in the toilets of a Cronulla nightclub.
on โ01-07-2014 07:12 AM
didn't quite get that Carney quote right.. I will have another go....the salient points for me are right in the middle ie....
"Definitely didnโt think" (that is pretty obvious)
and
" itโs hurt my pride and dignity as a person. Itโs hurt my mum and sisters.โ (and it is also pretty obvious that that
preceding statement shows remorse FOR BEING CAUGHT rather than disgust, remorse/contrition and
responsibilty for performing the act that shmed himself and his family. He has become more than proficient as allaying
responsiblity and the "chances" have merely shown him the way
โIt was just a prank, it was just the boys had seen me mucking around doing it before. I didnโt think there was a photo going to be taken,โ Carney said.
โDefinitely didnโt think thereโd be a photo in the public (domain). As much as itโs hurt Cronulla as a club and my career, itโs hurt my pride and dignity as a person. Itโs hurt my mum and sisters.โ
Nick Robinson, who took the photo, also appeared on Nine News.
โI went into the toilet, found Todd there, he asked me whether I had heard of the โfountainโ,โ he said.
Robinson also said โthe urine never went into his mouthโ.
Robinson reportedly forwarded the photo to his brother who lost his phone at the races and that is how the photo surfaced.
I think the answer to Carney's problem lay in the information below...castration or total segregation
Billy goats -- or bucks, as goat fanciers correctly call them -- are intact male goats. Bucks stink with a peculiar odor that
can be quite offensive to people who haven't been around goats.
Neither does (female goats) nor wethers (castrated males) exhibit such odors.
Buck Smell
Bucks stink with a strong musky odor, which comes from both their scent glands, located near their horns, and their urine, which they spray on their face, beards, front legs and chest.
They usually spray themselves during rut -- that is, the time when the does are in estrus. Rut usually occurs in late summer through fall, and it is the time when the buck is most smelly. While you may not find the odor pleasing, does find it irresistible.
When Do Bucks Stink?
Bucks smell pretty much all the time, but the rut causes them to smell worse.
They will urinate on themselves then more than any other time of the year.
Bucklings, or young male goats, usually start smelling like bucks when they become sexually mature.
Since bucklings can become sexually mature as young as 2 months, you may have a stinky youngster at that age.
Preventing the Stench
Most goat owners separate their bucks from other herd members to avoid tainting the milk with the smell and to avoid unplanned breedings.
This provides the additional benefit of keeping the buck smell away from all the other animals.
Some goat owners trim their buck's beards and wash their bellies, legs and heads to reduce the strong urine scent
on โ01-07-2014 07:18 AM
No doesn't deserve to be sacked.
A sackable offence is ne where the act was illegal or if it involved another person.
You shouldn't be sacked for your own stupidity.
on โ01-07-2014 07:30 AM
I like this guys thinking
"Itโs the mind set that determines how you play. Alcohol is the inhibitor to maximum performance on a regular basis.
Social degradation will overwhelm ability and that is what he is now subject to from many quarters.
My decision would have been no play or pay for the rest of the season, a condition that he cease drinking alcohol
forthwith for the duration of his contract with the club and regular urine testing as well as no social disturbances.
In other words you set the bar so high that if he wishes redemption he works hard to get it."
15 stupidest ways to get fired
http://saleshq.monster.com/news/articles/2334-the-15-stupidest-ways-to-get-fired
on โ01-07-2014 07:35 AM
@colic2bullsgirlore wrote:
Preventing the Stench
Most goat owners separate their bucks from other herd members to avoid tainting the milk with the smell and to avoid unplanned breedings.
This provides the additional benefit of keeping the buck smell away from all the other animals.
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Great comparison, Colic. Another feral goat for the outback herd.
DEB
on โ01-07-2014 08:34 AM
Depravity should never be supported or tolerated. He's an idiot and a drunk, he no longer deserves to belong to any club.
on โ01-07-2014 08:55 AM
....... Do you know a sure fire way not to get caught on film performing lurid acts.....DO NOT PERFORM LURID
ACTS...EVER...SIMPLE...who would like to bet that Carney has performed many many many lurid acts that will never
come to the public's attention.
Don't know if the act was lurid, but it certainly was lewd.
(Friendly correction, Colic)
on โ01-07-2014 09:21 AM
@lightningdance wrote:Depravity should never be supported or tolerated. He's an idiot and a drunk, he no longer deserves to belong to any club.
well that could see quite a lot of high profile politicians out of work, not to mention bosses.