on 04-09-2013 10:11 AM
I hope he does have to call a Double dissolution and send whats left of Labor and the greens into the black hole they both deserve to be in and to never be seen again in Australia.
Double dissolution still an option over carbon tax if Labor steps in
AN Abbott government would take every constitutional option available to kill off the carbon tax, leaving open the prospect of a double dissolution election if Labor stands in its way.
In his strongest comments on the issue, Tony Abbott yesterday left open the possibility Australians would again head to the polls if Labor blocked his plans to repeal carbon tax legislation in the Senate.
"We will do whatever we need to do to scrap the carbon tax, including use of constitutional options open to us," he said.
But confusion remains on how Labor would vote.
Mr Abbott said "no sane political party" (my side note ***labor and the greens are NOT sane) would stand in his way and take "electoral poison" by supporting a position that already cost them an election.
Labor to die defending a useless tax it wants gone
Today we’ve taken the decision to terminate the carbon tax.
I don’t think our actions on the carbon tax were right, that’s why I changed it to move towards a floating price,” the Prime Minister told ABC TV.
“To begin with, we didn’t have a mandate for it.”
Labor now admits it had no mandate for a carbon tax it promises to “terminate”, yet - what madness, what deceit - seems determined to block its repeal in the Senate:
Labor is shaping, in Abbott’s words, to “commit political suicide twice” by pledging to use the Labor-Greens control of the Senate to keep the carbon tax and force voters back to the polls next year for a double-dissolution election on the tax.
While refusing to entertain “hypothetical” questions about Labor’s attitude in opposition to the carbon tax Rudd made it clear he thought Labor was on the “right side of history” and would remain so into the future.
Deputy Labor leader and potential opposition leader Anthony Albanese was even blunter about not changing, and Environment Minister Mark Butler entrenched Labor’s refusal to repeal the carbon tax.
And:
Prime Minister Kevin Rudd ... threatened to block the Coalition’s direct action plan, possibly forcing another election should Tony Abbott become prime minister…
Asked whether carbon pricing was ‘’an article of faith’’ for Labor now and in the future, Mr Rudd said: ‘’Absolutely. Carbon pricing is fundamental to how you deal with climate change.‘’
Labor will argue that it isn’t defending the carbon tax but the emissions trading scheme that’s meant to replace it next year under Labor policy, rather than let it be replaced by the Coalition’s “Direct Action”. But the effect is much the same. Labor’s opposition (with Greens support) would protect the carbon tax, both as a fixed price scheme for now and as a floating-price scheme after that.
Labor broke its promise to never give us a carbon tax, and now threatens to break its promise to get rid of it.
And when you consider it’s prepared to face annihilation in defence of a tax - fixed or floating - that will make zero difference to global warming anyway.... well, completely insane.
UPDATE
... if Labor does resist, then Abbott will drive another wedge through Labor’s voting base. He has tabled his attack: the carbon tax is a symbol of how Labor sold its soul to the Greens; if Labor keeps voting for a carbon price/tax then alienated voters will know that Labor is a lost cause.
Abbott, as PM, would use the authority of office and Labor’s dogmatic support for the carbon tax to steal even more of its voting base. How much will be left? At what point does Labor dogmatism on carbon become a fatal blunder?
In summary, Labor is trapped. If it stands by its policy it loses even more of its centrist voting base to Abbott. But if it surrenders to Abbott then Labor will be denounced as a party of sell-outs and lose its leftist base to the Greens.
on 04-09-2013 10:21 AM
on 04-09-2013 11:02 AM
Kevin Rudd and Christine Milne both aver they will not pass Tony Abbott’s legislation to scrap the carbon tax in the Senate. Uncle Kev is all bluster but Aunty Chris is serious.
The Greens have no ear for 92% of the people, they only hear their own voices. Wherever they have gained unfair electoral clout they have left a trail of destruction.
Voter polarisation normally leads to the demise of minor parties but it’s too much to hope for a Green wipeout and their intransigence means we may need to revisit our Constitution.
Strangely, Abbott cannot ask the Governor General for a joint sitting without spending up to eight months in the tortuous process of securing a double dissolution election.
A joint sitting would pass Abbott’s legislation easily as the Lower House has twice the votes of the Senate. A joint sitting would also represent the will of the people without having to drag the nation to another damned election.
Paul Keating once referred to the Senate as “unrepresentative swill”. He was right! But this time it’s Labor/Green swill.
The Senate is a Pommy hangover of the House of Lords where drunken, unelected knights and peers have a right of veto over the legislation of the elected House of Commons.
This medieval anachronism lives on to haunt the modern democratic process.
There is little doubt Abbott will do whatever is necessary to abolish the destructive carbon tax.
It is a Green “redistribution of income” con Labor Lefties were attracted to. The thought of buckets of money being transferred from evil commerce to cripplingly costly social programs was mouthwateringly overwhelming.
The carbon tax was driven solely by now discredited global warming garbage.
So what’s the likely outcome?
Okay, Abbott will immediately move to rid us of this carbon tax abomination but he may not have control of the Senate.
Labor, under yet another odious leader, will fold rather than stomach another devastating election.
The damaged Greens will fight on for their ideological dream simply because they know no other way.
And it will make no difference!
on 04-09-2013 11:07 AM
Abbott lacks the ticker for it (double d). he's looking like a lame duck already complaining about the senate. he knows he cant keep that promise he's going to look stupid (more i mean)
on 04-09-2013 11:13 AM
@lakeland27 wrote:Abbott lacks the ticker for it (double d). he's looking like a lame duck already complaining about the senate. he knows he cant keep that promise
he's going to look stupid (more i mean)
WHATEVER
on 04-09-2013 11:21 AM
@nero_wulf wrote:
@lakeland27 wrote:Abbott lacks the ticker for it (double d). he's looking like a lame duck already complaining about the senate. he knows he cant keep that promise
he's going to look stupid (more i mean)
WHATEVER
dont worry, andrew or one of the guys will write a reply for you to paste soon enough
04-09-2013 11:23 AM - edited 04-09-2013 11:24 AM
yes and the word 'mandate' no longer applies. irrelevant. its purely a matter of 'does abbott have the senate numbers ?'
it seems unlikely
on 04-09-2013 11:44 AM
on 04-09-2013 12:54 PM
what a complete waste of tax payers money that would be
on 04-09-2013 01:10 PM
o dear! complaining about what Tony Abbott "might" do, and he's not even elected yet>>>>
HATE these emoticons.!