Easter Special: The Historicity of the Resurrection.

[the_bob_delusion]

Without using "faith, is it possible to prove historically that Jesus Rose from the Dead?

These are the main evidence for the resurrection of Jesus based on foremost Christian Apologists.

Jesus was crucified

Tomb was found empty

Women are reported as Witnesses to his empty tomb

Jesus' followers and Paul(an Enemy) saw Jesus after he died. 

The best explanation is that Jesus Rose from the dead according to apologists. 

Do these "facts" convience you?

[iapetus_rocks]

"On another related point.

According to a TV show I watched part of last week, called something like "Jesus - Rise to Power" historians are not even sure what 'shape' the Romans used to crusify people - whether it was as is depicted in most Religious books a cross or whether it was like an X or if it was just a straight pole."

(Word Origin

C13: from Old French crucifier, from Late Latin crucifīgere to crucify, to fasten to a cross, from Latin crux cross + fīgere to fasten)

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/crucify

So, probably cross-shaped then. 😉

[rabbitearbandicoot]

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@iapetus_rocks wrote:

"On another related point.

According to a TV show I watched part of last week, called something like "Jesus - Rise to Power" historians are not even sure what 'shape' the Romans used to crusify people - whether it was as is depicted in most Religious books a cross or whether it was like an X or if it was just a straight pole."

(Word Origin

C13: from Old French crucifier, from Late Latin crucifīgere to crucify, to fasten to a cross, from Latin crux cross + fīgere to fasten)

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/crucify

So, probably cross-shaped then. 😉

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French and Latin were not invented when Jesus died. The word 'Cross' and it's definition in either Latin or French have very little nothing to do with what it was called hundreds of years later.

I am only quoting Historians who, as I said, have no evidence of WHAT SHAPE it was. Biblical scholars say the word 'stauros' was used and that means an upright stake. This from the  UCG site: 

http://www.ucg.org/bible-faq/why-shouldnt-we-wear-cross-sign-being-christian

[k0llectable5]

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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

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@iapetus_rocks wrote:

"On another related point.

According to a TV show I watched part of last week, called something like "Jesus - Rise to Power" historians are not even sure what 'shape' the Romans used to crusify people - whether it was as is depicted in most Religious books a cross or whether it was like an X or if it was just a straight pole."

(Word Origin

C13: from Old French crucifier, from Late Latin crucifīgere to crucify, to fasten to a cross, from Latin crux cross + fīgere to fasten)

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/crucify

So, probably cross-shaped then. 😉

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French and Latin were not invented when Jesus died. The word 'Cross' and it's definition in either Latin or French have very little nothing to do with what it was called hundreds of years later.

I am only quoting Historians who, as I said, have no evidence of WHAT SHAPE it was. Biblical scholars say the word 'stauros' was used and that means an upright stake. This from the  UCG site: 

http://www.ucg.org/bible-faq/why-shouldnt-we-wear-cross-sign-being-christian

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Makes you wonder doesn't it? Personally I can stand those crosses people wear that depict the ressurection.  There's something up with those imo.

[rabbitearbandicoot]

This is also very interestingL http://www.johnrothacker.org/downloads/Babylon%20Mystery%20Religion%20Summary.pdf

It does a very good job of exposing where Mother and Child worship comes from.

[lal-au0]

if latin was not "invented" yet when jesus died which language did the romans speak? english?

[azureline**]

Old Latin (origin – 75 B.C.)

Classical Latin (75 B.C.E. – 200 A.D.)

[rabbitearbandicoot]

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@lal-au0 wrote:

if latin was not "invented" yet when jesus died which language did the romans speak? english?

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 It's debatable, but Hebrew, Aramaic, or more likely Greek which was the common language of the time. The New Testament was written in Koin Greek.

Yes, sorry. Of course the Romans would also have spoken their native tongue which was early Latin - I agree, but my point about the word 'stauros' meaning stake still stands. And the words 'cross' and 'crusification' are later additions / translations, so their meanings in any current dictionary are predefined by later usage / reference. The UCG site puts it far better than I can - so, read it.