Ebola case diagnosed in US

[ashjoma]

On the news websites now.

Diagnosed in Texas.

[iapetus_rocks]

That's ok. sorry if I gave rise to a misunderstanding. I welcome your posts and I'm glad you're back here again, even if I respectfully disagree with some things you write. It's a free world; or it could be, if we all agreed that it should be so.

[graem-frede]

There are ample resources.They are just abused.I am not sure how old you are.I am not all that old but I still remember having no sewerage. I still remember having a can in the backyard as toilet and the cans would go out in the street and the "dunny carter" would pick them up twice a week. That was in the 60's.In those days we had washing machines that last 50 years fridges that never broke down and tv's that went forever etc etc etc. Now everything is throw away.Throw away is not sustainable.They built the economy on destroying resources.It is unsustainable.

[graem-frede]

Reported in Israeli news that he died.

[***super_nova***]

that is sad; the hospital wasted 4 days that could have made huge difference, not to mention would have greatly reduced the possibility of the infection spreading.  😞

[jimmy*part4]

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@***super_nova*** wrote:

that is sad; the hospital wasted 4 days that could have made huge difference, not to mention would have greatly reduced the possibility of the infection spreading.  😞

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Because the guy lied to them. Just like he lied to travel here.

And while all those people that carried the first infected woman died...he lied at the airport to come here and get treated. All the while knowing he was putting all those at risk around him.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/02/world/africa/ebola-victim-texas-thomas-eric-duncan.html?_r=0

The conditions are bad enough over there, but their lax attitude is doing them in.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/02/world/africa/ebola-spreading-in-west-africa.html?rref=world/africa...

[muppet_detector]

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@jimmy*part3 wrote:

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@***super_nova*** wrote:

that is sad; the hospital wasted 4 days that could have made huge difference, not to mention would have greatly reduced the possibility of the infection spreading.  😞

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Because the guy lied to them. Just like he lied to travel here.

And while all those people that carried the first infected woman died...he lied at the airport to come here and get treated. All the while knowing he was putting all those at risk around him.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/02/world/africa/ebola-victim-texas-thomas-eric-duncan.html?_r=0

The conditions are bad enough over there, but their lax attitude is doing them in.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/02/world/africa/ebola-spreading-in-west-africa.html?rref=world/africa...

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Reading this, I have asked myself "what would I do?", if I were walking in that man's shoes.

He felt vunerable.

He was probably scared.

Scared not only of the symptoms of the disease, but maybe even scared of dying.

He was faced with the reality of his own mortality.

People do things totally out of character when this happens. We hear of athiests making deals with God and we hear of superhuman exploits of what peoople do to cheat and to beat death.

I think it is easy to condemn this man for lying.

But I think that we have to remember that he was probably scared, probably terrified, probably desperate.

Can we really blame a man for choosing to fight for his life? Blame him for doing whatever it takes to survive, or to at least give himself the best shot at it?

Can we really expect him to "take one for the team?"

I don't think that he planned to contract the virus, and he then had to deal with that harsh reality the best way that he knew how to, and possibly even made decisions that he would not have ordinarily made.

I don't think I would have done what this man did (but I will never really know unless I am in that position) but I do know for sure that if the infected were someone about whom I cared, I would have begged them to do whatever they had to do to receive the best chance possible for effective treatment.

[graem-frede]

I don't think I would have done what this man did (but I will never really know unless I am in that position) but I do know for sure that if the infected were someone about whom I cared, I would have begged them to do whatever they had to do to receive the best chance possible for effective treatment. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well you may get your chance soon to find out.

[muppet_detector]

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@graem-frede wrote:
I don't think I would have done what this man did (but I will never really know unless I am in that position) but I do know for sure that if the infected were someone about whom I cared, I would have begged them to do whatever they had to do to receive the best chance possible for effective treatment. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well you may get your chance soon to find out.

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So, it's not a given then?

Your conviction is wavering.

Only yesterday, according to you, the end was coming. Today it is merely a possibility.

If you cannot be strong and constant in your convictions and beliefs, then how can you expect others to believe in what you say?

[***super_nova***]

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@jimmy*part3 wrote:

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@***super_nova*** wrote:

that is sad; the hospital wasted 4 days that could have made huge difference, not to mention would have greatly reduced the possibility of the infection spreading.  😞

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Because the guy lied to them.

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Considering that people are not contagious until they display symptoms, and from what I gathered he left Liberia before he got sick, there was no danger to the people on the plane.  It is quite understandable that the man would want to get to USA, which was his only chance; I would not want to judge him.  BUT it makes no sense to lie to the hospital: he would have known that unless he gets immediate and appropriate treatment he is not going to survive.  And I heard the hospital spokesperson saying that there they were told, but there was a "communication break down" and the info was not passed on.

The condition in Africa are horrendous, but that is only to be expected as nobody wants to do any work in Ebola hospitals (if that is what you can call it).  There is total lack of sanitation, and no money to do anything about it.

[graem-frede]

I believe you are mentally ill.You display certain classic signs such as believing things that cannot be possibly true.You also appear to be blind to reality.I suspect you need medication urgently. Secondly I suspect you do not believe in a Creator.Therefore your comment that "You are not the voice of God nor do you represent it." is a totally nonsensical statement. If you not believe in the God of the Bible nor know what the God of the Bible does or commands then how could you be in a position to decide who if anyone can speak for God? You appear deluded to me.