on 05-09-2014 05:13 AM
Just as the title suggests, once a week, I will post a topic to discuss, and a video documentary to watch.
. End of America- Naomi Wolf presents you with the movie you must see to believe
. End of America Revisited- The complete talk by Naomi Wolf at the Free State Project's Liberty Forum 2014
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on 06-09-2014 10:55 AM
And if any other country would like to step up to the plate, now would be a great time - there's no one at the helm.
Yes there is. We have a duly elected president. Just because you don't like him, doesn't change the fact that he is the leader of the United States and in fact...is at the helm.
on 06-09-2014 11:00 AM
@lealta wrote:And if any other country would like to step up to the plate, now would be a great time - there's no one at the helm.
Yes there is. We have a duly elected president. Just because you don't like him, doesn't change the fact that he is the leader of the United States and in fact...is at the helm.
I don't think it's as simple as "you don't like him" it's much more than that, he is showing he can't make a decision, runs away every time there's a crisis and only comes back to deliver what he thinks is "cool and hip" and the media lap it up. It's totally scary that he is at the helm.
on 06-09-2014 11:10 AM
on 06-09-2014 11:23 AM
I was going to reply, but there seems to be a BP'er here, so need to watch myself............
just take care all, things are not always as they seem.
ho hum
on 06-09-2014 11:54 AM
@2106greencat wrote:I was going to reply, but there seems to be a BP'er here, so need to watch myself............
just take care all, things are not always as they seem.
ho hum
noo, really? on here as well? what's that all about. Some people just cantt move past their bias and to BP this thread which was a think piece asking for opinions than to get set upon for having the affront to post on an Australian thread, well it just proves that the boards have been hijacked by groups who have nothing to add, nothing worth their time except to press.
on 06-09-2014 12:56 PM
Disclaimer: not in response to anyone in particular.
Tom Lehrer said it all.
06-09-2014 01:01 PM - edited 06-09-2014 01:04 PM
Yeah, it was actually an interesting idea for a topic, "The End of America"
And me too, disclaimer, not to anyone in particular.
Sometimes this says it all:
Whoosh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJt_CiJWxzY
06-09-2014 01:52 PM - edited 06-09-2014 01:53 PM
"ON THIRD TRY, OBAMA STILL FLUBS IT ON ISIS
Barack Obama has always been good with words, but he’s not good enough to give coherence to his ramshackle foreign policy. Not surprisingly words have failed the president (or, to be more accurate, the president has failed words) most conspicuously when it comes to the aspect of his policy that’s in greatest disarray — his policy regarding terrorism.
First, Obama admitted that he didn’t have a strategy for dealing with ISIS. On his next try, after initially stating that his objective is to degrade and destroy ISIS, Obama ended up saying that his goal was merely to reduce it to a “manageable problem”
Obama tried again today. This time he said unambiguously that his goal is to degrade and destroy ISIS (or ISIL as he calls the terrorists):
Our objective is clear and that is to degrade and destroy ISIL so it’s no longer a threat—not just to Iraq but also to the region and to the United States.
Unfortunately, Obama again lost the plot for a third time when he explained how he intends to accomplish this:
Mr Obama compared the fight against Isil to those with al-Qaeda and al-Shabaab in Somalia. He disclosed that US forces had killed Ahmed Abdi Godane, the leader of al-Shabaab, as had been reported but not previously confirmed.
Mr Obama said: “It’s not going to happen overnight, but we are steadily moving in the right direction. And we are going to achieve our goal.
“We are going to degrade and ultimately defeat Isil the same way that we have gone after al-Qaeda, the same way that we have gone after the al-Qaeda affiliate in Somalia, where we [have] released the fact that we have killed the leader of al-Shabaab in Somalia and have consistently worked to degrade their operations.”
But the fight against ISIS bears little resemblance to the fight against what Obama has called “core al Qaeda” or to the fight against al-Shabaab in Somalia. Unlike these outfits, ISIS is a large army that now controls a huge amount of territory — enough to form a state, which is its goal.
You can’t defeat an army or a would-be state by taking out its leaders. Why does Obama profess otherwise? Because he’s unwilling to commit to the forms of action everyone understands are required to defeat a well-trained, well-financed army that possesses all manner of sophisticated weapons, usually in large quantities.
Even Chuck Hagel has figured out that ISIS is “beyond anything we’ve seen” before. If it is analogous to any of our recent enemies, that enemy is the Taliban. Like ISIS, the Taliban had an army. It also had a state.
No one thought we could defeat the Taliban by killing its leaders. We defeated it, albeit it only temporarily, through “shock and awe.”
Obama doesn’t do “shock and awe.” He doesn’t even do traditional boots on the ground. He does drones and, under extreme duress, limited air strikes. He will neither destroy nor, in all likelihood, significantly degrade ISIS that way.
But at least he has finally found words that will get him through a news cycle without widespread derision."
Powerline, Paul Mirengoff 9/5/2014
on 06-09-2014 02:10 PM
No one thought we could defeat the Taliban by killing its leaders. We defeated it, albeit it only temporarily, through “shock and awe.”
That sentence is a contradiction. When you defeat someone, you conquer them. Not temporarily. Temporarily would merely indicate that you slowed them down. Shock and awe absolutely did not work. What's really funny is that the author says we used "shock and awe" to defeat the Taliban. Shock and awe was the bombing of Iraq not Afghanistan. The Taliban were in Afghanistan.
on 06-09-2014 02:12 PM
@karliandjacko wrote:Enough of the pretend innocence already.
Too funny for words.
I take offence to your post. I was one of the 1st posters to respond to this thread and I had an OPINION not a snipe and I did not BP any post.
Careful.