on 19-11-2014 12:22 PM
Did anyone watch "First Contact" on SBS last night and/or the reaction on NITV? It's a three part series in which a group of people who have had no contact with Indigenous people spend time in various Aboriginal communities over a period of 28 days. I was shaking my head at the rudeness and ignorance of some of the participants.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-19/sbs-program-first-contact-sparks-social-media-frenzy/5901890
on 21-11-2014 01:01 AM - last edited on 21-11-2014 04:42 AM by mc_remington
I am still lost for words.
on 21-11-2014 10:59 AM
@i-need-a-martini wrote:Clearly you watched the program but through glasses tinted with ignorance. No, tinted with reality.
Because although you heard about an aboriginal community that managed to fight against the problem of booze, you obviously missed the intro to that where Weaving noted that the federal government has just removed funding to help with the type of programs these women implemented. How do they fight the problem without funding and support? How much funding did it require for those women to STAND UP AND SAY NO?
And whilst you blamed the women for drinking while they were pregnant, I heard about women with generations of problems with addiction which could be solved with funding for education. Addictions that white people introduced them to BTW. This generational problem you speak of? It's strange that the grandmother in this scenario (the offending woman's mother) didn't have those problems and in fact was looking after her grandchildren. Are you saying that it was her (white) husband's influence that allowed her to be that way or are you saying that the problem skipped a generation?
And whilst you saw a man who couldn't say no to breaking the law, I heard that (aside from the cultural obligations these men had) they lived in communities with hardly any cars and absolutely no public transport living in isloted communities thousands of miles away from the local shops. I have seen numerous threads on here CONDEMING drink drivers and those who continue to drive after disqualification - are you saying that should NOT APPLY TO EVERYONE - ONLY ABORIGINALS. Did you also note WHERE the person wanted to go? Was it the Doctors - was he ill? I could understand that. BUT - No, it was 'the bottleo' - the bottle shop that his friend so urgently HAD to go to.
And whilst you heard that 15% of indigenous are more likely to be in gaol, I heard that the majority are in there for trivial reasons that no white man would ever be incarcerated for. If I drink drive and get caught and then CONTINUALLY drive and get caught - I GO TO PRISON which is what those guys were in for. As the prison governor said, they would have been let off at first, but after they continually did it they would go to prison and this guy had been to prison 18 times.
4 out of 5 of those people shared your views. And then they changed their attitude about their own prejudices. Why do you think that is?
on 21-11-2014 11:25 AM - last edited on 21-11-2014 01:13 PM by luna-2304
For someone to say in 2014 that the stolen generation were better off cos they got a white mans education is beyond my belief.
on 21-11-2014 11:36 AM - last edited on 21-11-2014 01:16 PM by luna-2304
@lobs211 wrote:
For someone to say in 2014 that the stolen generation were better off cos they got a white mans education is beyond my belief.
Lobs, I am so sorry that someone has made those remarks.
It would take such a small amount of research to discover how wrong they are. I am still having trouble reading "Bringing Them Home", because it is so distressing.
How is your sister?
on 21-11-2014 11:36 AM - last edited on 21-11-2014 01:16 PM by luna-2304
on 21-11-2014 11:41 AM
Thanks guys but it wont stay. My last attempt was nicer LOL and they took it off.
It hurts me that someone can still think this way - but doesnt surprise I spose 😞
My sister has a scan on the 15th of December to see if the liver tumours have got less - there was 10 - you need 3 to have surgery
If my butt not banned I will come in and let you know
Cheers
on 21-11-2014 11:43 AM
Aboriginal alcohol consumption
Traditionally Aboriginal people consumed weak alcohol made from various plants. Their problems with alcohol began with the white invasion.
Contrary to public perception surveys have in fact found that proportionally fewer Aboriginal people drink alcohol than whites do.
Media tend to get the facts wrong, ignoring efforts by communities to get dry and reinforcing stereotyping.
http://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/health/aboriginal-alcohol-consumption
on 21-11-2014 11:43 AM - last edited on 21-11-2014 01:22 PM by luna-2304
lobs211 wrote:For someone to say in 2014 that the stolen generation were better off cos they got a white mans education is beyond my belief.
It's beyond the belief of many Lobs. 😞
on 21-11-2014 11:47 AM
Karen *Hugs*
you people wanna not be quoting me LOL - slaps be coming your way!!!
Ha ha
In case I get banned again - just letting you know - this Baby 3 years old last Wednesday!!!! 3!!!!!!!!!!
Where did that time go?
on 21-11-2014 11:56 AM
@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:"Centrelink gives you rent assistance if you rent and are on benefits." - Yes, I said that above, but I can guarantee it's no to the tune of $700+ a fortnight.
If they have money to pay, why would they be descriminated against? Yes, I know it happens, BUT when I have gone to stay at motels, I am asked to scan my credit card before they give me the keys. If I haven't got a credit card, I don't know what would happen - Would they discriminaste against me because I didn't have the means to pay? Would I call it discrimination or would I say 'fair enough' - you are trying to run a business?
If I (or you) went somewhere and didn't have the money (or a credit card) to pay for a motel, I would have to sleep in the car or wherever I could find.
Huh? I don't have a credit card, and have never had any trouble at motels. I have booked over the phone with no credit card and no deposit.