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Australian war hero Teddy Sheean will be awarded a posthumous Victoria Cross following a review by an expert panel.

 

Sheean died in 1942 when the HMAS Armidale was sunk by Japanese bombers in the Timor Sea.

 

The 18-year-old strapped himself to an anti-aircraft gun as the vessel went down and is credited with saving the lives of 49 crew.

Prime Minister Scott Morrison established an independent panel earlier this year after Sheean was denied the military honour.

The panel found Sheean deserved the recognition.

 

Mr Morrison has contacted the Queen to recommend Sheean be given the Victoria Cross and is confident she will agree.

toria Cross and is confident she will agree.

 

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I believe that the current review committee also drew upon Nippon after action reports which I presume noted a report by their pilots of notable resistance by a solitary gunner - and the fate of one of their attacking aircraft... 


So what was the Nipponese report of Teddy Sheean's actions?


What was the fate of one of the attackining aircraft"

 

It's always good to hear both sides of the story.



According to the story I heard earlier today on the radio, Japanese reports on the sinking of the Armidale stated that two of their attacking planes sustained substantial damage from the gun onboard the boat and one subsequently crashed.


Well Teddy Sheean did his job then, and I love him for the young man he was and his sacrifice of his young life for the sake of the living.

 

Especially he put his life on the line for the Australian cause.

 

His ancestry woulld have been Irish, who suffered so badly under British rule.  So many of his Irish forebears transported to Australian (British) prisons.

 

Yet he had his loyalty.

 

And we have to respect that.

 

 

 

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@ambercat16 wrote:

@icyfroth wrote:

@icyfroth wrote:

@rogespeed wrote:

I believe that the current review committee also drew upon Nippon after action reports which I presume noted a report by their pilots of notable resistance by a solitary gunner - and the fate of one of their attacking aircraft... 


So what was the Nipponese report of Teddy Sheean's actions?


What was the fate of one of the attackining aircraft"

 

It's always good to hear both sides of the story.



According to the story I heard earlier today on the radio, Japanese reports on the sinking of the Armidale stated that two of their attacking planes sustained substantial damage from the gun onboard the boat and one subsequently crashed.


Probably why they broke off the attack - would be something bushidou about a single gunner on a soon to go under the surface sinking ship shooting up their attack force when all others had abondoned ship - with even tracer fire seen still arching upwards after the ship went under 

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Probably why they broke off the attack - would be something bushidou about a single gunner on a soon to go under the surface sinking ship shooting up their attack force when all others had abondoned ship - with even tracer fire seen still arching upwards after the ship went under 


Who said they broke off the attack? The ship sank and the Japanese planes were firing on the survivors in the water.  Do you just make these things up to show off some dubious knowledge or what?

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I think it is good news and fitting that he is awarded this.

 

The great pity is that it had to be 78 years later, when his parents, any siblings, aunts, cousins etc are probably all gone.

 

It's hard to lose someone but it could have given them a bit of comfort if it had been awarded years ago.

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Probably why they broke off the attack - would be something bushidou about a single gunner on a soon to go under the surface sinking ship shooting up their attack force when all others had abondoned ship - with even tracer fire seen still arching upwards after the ship went under 


Who said they broke off the attack? The ship sank and the Japanese planes were firing on the survivors in the water.  Do you just make these things up to show off some dubious knowledge or what?


Because there were survivors - no hope in water against 11 remaining super trained pilots of attack aircraft that are hyped up , and where no quarter is expected or given , on both sides - I am sure they observed something astonishing that appealed to the air leader's honour code and so ordered leaving survivors as witnesses or out of tribute , but is only conjecture - but could have been 11 armed aircraft shot at and missed sailors floundering in the ocean during sustained attack without return fire post ship sinking.....or the Zero's were low on fuel ( 2,600 km range)

 

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Queen Elizabeth II has approved the posthumous awarding of the Victoria Cross to WWII hero Edward 'Teddy' Sheean, Governor-General David Hurley says.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/queen-approves-victoria-cross-for-wwii-hero-teddy-sheean/ar...

 

Finally.

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Because there were survivors - no hope in water against 11 remaining super trained pilots of attack aircraft that are hyped up , and where no quarter is expected or given , on both sides - I am sure they observed something astonishing that appealed to the air leader's honour code and so ordered leaving survivors as witnesses or out of tribute , but is only conjecture - but could have been 11 armed aircraft shot at and missed sailors floundering in the ocean during sustained attack without return fire post ship sinking.....or the Zero's were low on fuel ( 2,600 km range)

 

Here you go - some fact (given the RAN hasn't edited it out) -

 

As the soldiers and sailors began to evacuate into the water, the Zeroes stopped attacking the sinking corvette and began strafing runs on those in the water.[14] Ordinary Seaman Edward "Teddy" Sheean, who had been wounded in the initial attack, strapped himself into one of Armidale's 20 mm Oerlikons and opened fire on the aircraft.[14][15] Teddy forced one Zero to crash into the sea and damaged at least two others; continuing to fire until he went down with Armidale.[14] Low on fuel, the Japanese aircraft headed for home.[14] The survivors found that the two ship's boats survived the sinking, and were able to fashion a raft from debris.[14]

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMAS_Armidale_(J240)

 

I doubt bushido came into it - that was a samurai code, and fighter pilots were unlikely to be samurai.

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Why unlikely? They may have followed a similar ethic, or code.
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