on 01-11-2014 01:14 AM
I went to 7-Eleven tonight to get a bite to eat, grabbed a Four'n Twenty pie and gosh it was halal.
Traitors! How can they do this?
I put it back in the warmer then drove to a local Italian restaurant and we had pasta carbonara.
on 04-11-2014 02:09 PM
@ufo_investigations wrote:
@anto-dorca wrote:
@ufo_investigations wrote:Don't you people understand?
You can't negotiate with islam!
Islam does not tolerate democracy.
Islam does not tolerate infidels.
Islam does not tolerate anyone.
If islam was to be the dominant authority in Australia we would all be dead.
I negotiate with islamic customers
they tolerate me just fine
not even themselves ?
it isn't and isn't likely to be.
painting a minority as a representative group is incorrect . all irishmen are IRA terrorists ? all americans are survivalist nuts ? all englishmen eat kippers for breakfast and drink warm beer ? you've been had buster.
That is because only 2% of the population is islamic but if it was over 50% it would mean that an islamic political party would win and then islamic sharia law would be implemented just like Saudi Arabia.
2% is a long long way from 50%
50% will never happen as we are a multi cultural society here
on 04-11-2014 02:10 PM
@*lady*godiva* wrote:
@ufo_investigations wrote:Don't you people understand?
You can't negotiate with islam!
Islam does not tolerate democracy.
Islam does not tolerate infidels.
Islam does not tolerate anyone.
If islam was to be the dominant authority in Australia we would all be dead.
UFO
I understand where you are coming from.
But here is the thing, our government now and in the past, is made up of reasonably intelligent people (on the whole). They carefully monitor immigration, and will not allow the numbers of any one demographic to swell to such numbers where they will be able to dominate in the manner in which you describe.
They are educated sufficiently to evaluate the repercussions of introducing a law such as sharia, either on its own or in conjunction with our own to the extent that it will erode the values provide the foundations for our existing laws. I am thinking here in the situations of where some aboriginal communities have been able to operate according to aboriginal law as far as disciplining their own, but even that was never to the extent that it displaced the main laws of society. It was mainly handling minor offences that affected only their communities - like maybe swiping something smallish from someone within their community, an elder may ask if they could discipline them according to aboriginal custom rather than through the english court system.
Should they (or anyone) challenge democracy, or treat another person in a manner that is against our laws, they will be penalised under our law. Now the gov MAY consider allowing for minor laws/customs within their communities that do not interfere with the integrity of our own, but if they cut off their own son's hand, or stone their wife (far less someone outside their community) they will be accountable to our law.
I acknowlege that we can only limit immigration. we cannot limit the number of offspring, so I think you may be thinking of subsequent generations where the numbers may well increase beyond what can be controlled, or perhaps, just the numbers of people who may be attracted to that religion and join/convert - or maybe even that as we become desensitised through continual exposure to their presence and customs that we may be more willing to accept changes that go against what were our core values - you are against a shift in those core values.
I think that your next thought is that, any one of the above may gain sufficient numbers and or positions in society that they will be able to enter government and make the changes to sharia law from within
Is any of that close to your line of thought?
Yes exactly, at the moment they are screaming for separate toilets, separate transport, separate swimming pools, separate prostitutes, separate foods, separate drinks, separate prayer rooms, separate laws, separate courts, separate finance, BASICALLY this is ISLAMIC APARTHEID. The appeasers have already bowed down to these demands but once their population is over 50% infidels will have to convert or be beheaded.
on 04-11-2014 02:21 PM
@ufo_investigations wrote:
@*lady*godiva* wrote:
@ufo_investigations wrote:Don't you people understand?
You can't negotiate with islam!
Islam does not tolerate democracy.
Islam does not tolerate infidels.
Islam does not tolerate anyone.
If islam was to be the dominant authority in Australia we would all be dead.
UFO
I understand where you are coming from.
But here is the thing, our government now and in the past, is made up of reasonably intelligent people (on the whole). They carefully monitor immigration, and will not allow the numbers of any one demographic to swell to such numbers where they will be able to dominate in the manner in which you describe.
They are educated sufficiently to evaluate the repercussions of introducing a law such as sharia, either on its own or in conjunction with our own to the extent that it will erode the values provide the foundations for our existing laws. I am thinking here in the situations of where some aboriginal communities have been able to operate according to aboriginal law as far as disciplining their own, but even that was never to the extent that it displaced the main laws of society. It was mainly handling minor offences that affected only their communities - like maybe swiping something smallish from someone within their community, an elder may ask if they could discipline them according to aboriginal custom rather than through the english court system.
Should they (or anyone) challenge democracy, or treat another person in a manner that is against our laws, they will be penalised under our law. Now the gov MAY consider allowing for minor laws/customs within their communities that do not interfere with the integrity of our own, but if they cut off their own son's hand, or stone their wife (far less someone outside their community) they will be accountable to our law.
I acknowlege that we can only limit immigration. we cannot limit the number of offspring, so I think you may be thinking of subsequent generations where the numbers may well increase beyond what can be controlled, or perhaps, just the numbers of people who may be attracted to that religion and join/convert - or maybe even that as we become desensitised through continual exposure to their presence and customs that we may be more willing to accept changes that go against what were our core values - you are against a shift in those core values.
I think that your next thought is that, any one of the above may gain sufficient numbers and or positions in society that they will be able to enter government and make the changes to sharia law from within
Is any of that close to your line of thought?
Yes exactly, at the moment they are screaming for separate toilets, separate transport, separate swimming pools, separate prostitutes, separate foods, separate drinks, separate prayer rooms, separate laws, separate courts, separate finance, BASICALLY this is ISLAMIC APARTHEID. The appeasers have already bowed down to these demands but once their population is over 50% infidels will have to convert or be beheaded.
i can't hear any screaming.
04-11-2014 02:38 PM - edited 04-11-2014 02:39 PM
"but yes - the above is UFO's view, and he should not expect anyone to be forced to agree with his views, but he is not doing that.
He is frustrated because he cannot seem to make you understand his views and that we are all trying to tell him "his views are wrong"
Others not agreeing with someones view/post is not telling them they are wrong! Some would do well to accept that.
OP keeps repeating himself and getting frustrated because others are not bending to his views.
Credit the other posters here with having intelligience please...we are not going to be swayed by propaganda.
I understand what views religious bigots and racists have. No way would I agree with those views.
on 04-11-2014 02:39 PM
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on 04-11-2014 02:43 PM
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