GERMANY incest between siblings

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GERMANY’S national ethics council wants to allow incest between siblings

German Ethics Council votes in favour of allowing incest between siblings 

GERMANY’S national ethics council wants to allow incest between siblings, saying the risk of disability in children isn’t enough to warrant the law.

The Independent reports that the council made the recommendation after reviewing the case of Patrick Stuebing, a man who was adopted as a child and met his half-sister when he was 24 and she was 16.

The pair have four children together, however he was jailed for three years in 2008 and his sister, Susan Karolewski, was only allowed to keep one out of their four children.

Two of the children are disabled although it is unclear if that is a result of their parents being related.

Overnight, the German Ethics Council recommended that Section 173 of the German criminal code, which makes incest an offence under which offenders can be jailed for years, be repealed.

The chairman of the council, Christiane Woopen, was among the 14 members voting in favour of repealing the law, while nine people voted for the ban to continue and two abstained.

“The majority of the German Ethics Council is of the opinion that it is not appropriate for a criminal law to preserve a social taboo,” the council said. “In the case of consensual incest among adult siblings, neither the fear of negative consequences for the family, nor the possibility of the birth of children from such incestuous relationships can justify a criminal prohibition.

“The fundamental right of adult siblings to sexual self-determination has more weight in such cases than the abstract protection of the family,” the council added. “Incest between siblings appears to be very rare in Western societies according to the available data but those affected describe how difficult their situation is in light of the threat of punishment.”

Elisabeth Winkelmeier-Becker, a spokeswoman for Angela Merkel’s CDU party, said the abolition of the law against incest would send the wrong message.

“Abolishing criminal punishment against incestuous actions within a family would go completely against protecting the undisturbed development of children,” she told Deutsche Welle.

The Ethics Council’s recommendation only covered incest between siblings and members did not recommend decriminalising sex between parents and children.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/lifestyle/relationships/german-ethics-council-votes-in-favour-of-al...

[karliandjacko]

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@ashjoma wrote:
Is this due to a certain culture having relatives eg cousins, marry and have children ?

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Like the Exclusive Brethren or Westboro Baptists do you mean?

[ashjoma]

They weren't first to mind, more another culture that is giving Germany , France , Denmark and other european countries lots of grief with their demands. ( and us as well ).

[debra9275]

Which one would that be ashjoma?

[ashjoma]

Well, there's a lot of issues on the news at the moment.

Also a former neighbour lives next to a household. Cousins married. All 4 children have big issues/ retarded. And it's the rest of us that have to pay for this.

[azureline**]

My uncle and aunt were first cousins, their children all needed glasses................... not retarded, not deformed, no other health issues.

[debra9275]

I don't get it.  i don't know who lives next door to who

why don't you just say who you mean?

[love*today]

Why do you need it spelt out?
Will you feel better if she states the obvious?

[purplecarrot-top]

Very obvious when you see who the poster is.

[love*today]

So what are you saying?

As far as I see that poster says what she see,s happening and does not let this board censor her.

[purplecarrot-top]

I think you know as do others.