Gardens

[boris1gary]

The garden 2006

[this-one-time-at-bandcamp]

Well, pool fencing, with no foothold and child safe latch is pretty good at keeping very small kids, those in most danger of drowning, out of danger.  But of-course, there were cases of toddlers drowning in dish of water  for the dog. 

Undoubtably..............yet, every year, adults leave gates open, and dozens of children drown.  Perhaps I should have said there is no such thing as "fool-proof" fencing, instead of child-proof fencing.

[polksaladallie]

My reaction was because I was shocked that you have no laws like we do.  A child can drown in 2 inches of water.  We have strict fencing laws here, and those laws have resulted in a dramatic drop in child drownings.  Babies and toddlers are most at risk, and it is appalling to put all the blame on the carer.

[grandmoon]

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@this-one-time-at-bandcamp wrote:

Well, pool fencing, with no foothold and child safe latch is pretty good at keeping very small kids, those in most danger of drowning, out of danger.  But of-course, there were cases of toddlers drowning in dish of water  for the dog. 

Undoubtably..............yet, every year, adults leave gates open, and dozens of children drown.  Perhaps I should have said there is no such thing as "fool-proof" fencing, instead of child-proof fencing.

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I agree that there isn't anything such as a child proof fence.  My daughter and her hubby decided that they she replace the pool fence with a new and so called child proof fence which was costing them $1,700  because their 3 year old daughter was facilitated by the pool. 

After the new fence was finished the man was showing SIL the safety catch on the gate.  When Miss  3 came outside too one look at the fence and climbed straight over it, while her fayther and te poolman watched her. .

[k0llectable5]

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@polksaladallie wrote:

My reaction was because I was shocked that you have no laws like we do.  A child can drown in 2 inches of water.  We have strict fencing laws here, and those laws have resulted in a dramatic drop in child drownings.  Babies and toddlers are most at risk, and it is appalling to put all the blame on the carer.

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I disagree Polks.  If a child drowned on my watch it would be my fault because if it wasn't my fault, whos fault would it be? 

[this-one-time-at-bandcamp]

We do have laws........ all swimming pools are required to have fencing...........however, as I mentioned, water features with less than 16 inches of depth are exempt.........otherwise that  2x2 fountain in a front yard would be required to have a 4 foot fence around it.  My insurance agent has no problem with my pond.

[polksaladallie]

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@secondhand-wonderland wrote:

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@polksaladallie wrote:

My reaction was because I was shocked that you have no laws like we do.  A child can drown in 2 inches of water.  We have strict fencing laws here, and those laws have resulted in a dramatic drop in child drownings.  Babies and toddlers are most at risk, and it is appalling to put all the blame on the carer.

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I disagree Polks.  If a child drowned on my watch it would be my fault because if it wasn't my fault, whos fault would it be? 

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What about car crashes?  Would you take all the blame?

[silvernanny22]

I , too have an old bath as a fishpond on my back deck. It is looking a bit on the plain side.

Can you tell me Supernova what are the plants in your bath/pond?

[polksaladallie]

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@grandmoon wrote:

I agree that there isn't anything such as a child proof fence.  My daughter and her hubby decided that they she replace the pool fence with a new and so called child proof fence which was costing them $1,700  because their 3 year old daughter was facilitated by the pool. 

After the new fence was finished the man was showing SIL the safety catch on the gate.  When Miss  3 came outside too one look at the fence and climbed straight over it, while her fayther and te poolman watched her. .

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I'd like to see a pic of the fence.  Was there something there that she stood on?  Were there plants?  There has been a 15 year child drowning study, where children of all ages were watched as they tried and some succeeded to climb over different sorts of fences.  Along with all the other research, our pool fencing laws were passed.

Drowning used to be the leading cause of death in under fives in Australia, now it is second after car crashes, because of those pool fence laws.

[polksaladallie]

Once again, I apologise for hacking into this thread, but this subject was part of the work that I used to do, so I am touchy about it.

[this-one-time-at-bandcamp]

What about car crashes?  Would you take all the blame?

If I let the child drive, of course..........If I drove drunk, or didn't use a child safety seat, of course.........if some yahoo runs a red light and hits my car...........no.