on 16-04-2013 04:48 PM
This article by Miranda Devine in last weeks telegraph caught my eye and thought it would make for interesting discussion here:
Secrets of the hookup culture
"THERE is one domain in which woman have always reigned supreme, and that is the business of coupling, procreating and child rearing. Therefore, if you influence women, you influence the fabric of society. Which is why feminism has been such an important weapon in the armament of the left.
But feminism has now gone well beyond redressing genuine inequality to advocating behaviours and attitudes that damage women, and threaten the health of society. The evidence is there to be seen for anyone who cares to look, in the annals of psychological disorders that afflict so many young women today."
"The zipless f ... eulogised by yesterday’s feminists has become the norm for Gen Y in the form of a too-often joyless, mechanical and regret-filled hook-up culture. Secks and human connection, let alone love and compassion, have effectively been decoupled in the hook-up culture, in which dating has given way to no-strings-attached physical encounters.
The term “hook-up” is exactly as dehumanising it sounds, and a fascinating study by the American Psychological Association last month shows how disconnected are the seckual behaviours and private internal desires of young men, and especially young women.
Yet the establishment’s concern and outrage is marshalled against the rare piece of advice from elders that might offer an antidote to despair."
"Meantime, out in the real world, The American Psychological Association review, “Sexual Hookup culture” shows the disturbing psychological consequences, for both men and women. They include unwanted sex (mostly alongside alcohol and substance abuse), profound regret and feelings of shame, emptiness, and in some cases depression."
I despair also for the generation after this one...
on 16-04-2013 08:33 PM
this place needs a like button. like to your post Icy
... you reminded me of this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWjNFC-FinU
on 16-04-2013 09:15 PM
Young women are disgusting these days and then they cry why they dont have boyfriends. Maybe they're not real bright.
on 16-04-2013 09:29 PM
One of the problems as I see it is that young women are simply not growing up - at 30 they are still giggly 19 year olds.
I watched an episode of Socks In the City once - the only one I ever watched. It started with one of the 'girls' in bed with her latest boyfriend. As things are starting to warm up she lets drop a tiny little squeak of a fart. Immediately she jumps out of bed covered in embarrassment and confusion, gets rid of her socks partner as quickly as she decntly can and spends the rest of the episode agonising with her girl friends over how humiliated she is and how can she ever face the man again.
I thought, get real girlie - you are supposed to be a mature high-achieving 30 something. When I was your age I had a husband a mortgage and 5 kids. Farting in bed was the least of my problems.
on 16-04-2013 10:00 PM
im a bit dim this evening but can someone explain where IVF fall into this? Am I missing something?
on 16-04-2013 10:07 PM
One of the problems as I see it is that young women are simply not growing up - at 30 they are still giggly 19 year olds.
I watched an episode of Socks In the City once - the only one I ever watched. It started with one of the 'girls' in bed with her latest boyfriend. As things are starting to warm up she lets drop a tiny little squeak of a fart. Immediately she jumps out of bed covered in embarrassment and confusion, gets rid of her socks partner as quickly as she decntly can and spends the rest of the episode agonising with her girl friends over how humiliated she is and how can she ever face the man again.
I thought, get real girlie - you are supposed to be a mature high-achieving 30 something. When I was your age I had a husband a mortgage and 5 kids. Farting in bed was the least of my problems.
That's the point isn't it She-el?
At 30 you had taken up your life, well and truly.
At my work, a colleague had taken up her life at age 11, running the household for her sick mother.
Responsibility was taken and exercised.
Gen Y laughs it off. Goes to the next party. Has another drink.
It's the way they've been influenced.
on 16-04-2013 10:10 PM
I agree a bit with Elephant, women who are 22 years old act like 16 year old children.
on 16-04-2013 10:21 PM
I agree a bit with Elephant, women who are 22 years old act like 16 year old children.
yes but they're only living up to their expectations, aren't they, Crystal?
Young women are expected to look gorgeous and to party, party, party. Life is for living. Right? Enjoy it while you're young. Right? Except when it's not fun anymore.
Young women in previous generations were expected to step up to the plate, get a husband, have kids, run a household, be a contributing member of the community.
What expectations would you have for your daughters? And for that matter, your sons?
on 16-04-2013 10:44 PM
Icy, my girl is so busy she really doesn't have time for the nonsense of being single or even her boyfriend she has now.
on 16-04-2013 10:55 PM
Icy, my girl is so busy she really doesn't have time for the nonsense of being single or even her boyfriend she has now.
oh yes right-o
on 17-04-2013 01:38 AM
im a bit dim this evening but can someone explain where IVF fall into this? Am I missing something?
I'm glad you asked. The majority of these women will contract chlamydia, the rate of which has soared over the last 10 years. Chlamydia often results in infertility.