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davidc4430 · ‎31-10-2018

Geoffrey Rush trial: Actress Eryn Norvill says she felt 'belittled' by sexual gestures

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-30/geoffrey-rush-court-battle-hears-from-eryn-norvill/10445542

i really dont see what the young woman hopes to acheive by this, her carreer if she had one is prolly dead.

i dont think you can place acting into the same area you would most other jobs as far as where the 'line' is between ok behaviour and not ok behaviour.

in acting you can be required to be anying from a rocket scientist to a prostitute.

you can be asked to talk like you know how to fly the apollo moon lander or strip naked and 'pretend' your having sex with your husband or a complete stranger.

so getting 'uncomfotable' with a co-worker 'touching' you seems kinda hard to swallow.

i cant think of any 'normal' jobs where you would be required to do the shyte actors do.

so shes destroyed the reputation of one of the highest regarded actors of our times for what?

because she felt uncomfortable?

or did she just get caught up in the 'me too' typhoon and found herself too involved to get out?

she sure has fame but as to ever acting again i think she will find it difficult.

not_for_sale2025 · ‎31-10-2018

What bothers me with cases like this, where the media covers it in detail, is the public want an outcome that reflects the 'truth'. However, what it often narrows down to is an outcome based upon who had the smartest and craftiest lawyer. I will have doubts about the 'truth whatever the outcome. Yet, it is a shame that Rush's career is being damaged while this is going on. But I am bias, I like him.

the_great_she_elephant · ‎31-10-2018

"i really dont see what the young woman hopes to acheive by this, her carreer if she had one is prolly dead."

I don't think she hoped to "acheive" anything by it. She didn't make an official complaint. She simply said something to the director (probably in the hope he'd have a quiet word with Rush and tell him to behave himmself) She didn't even want Rush to know she'd mentioned it. Someone leaked to the presss, the Telegraph went overboard with sleazy innuendo and Rush sued. What was Norvill supposed to do? Even if she was not subpoened, she could hardly refuse to testify. If she did everyone would assume she had been lying.

icyfroth · ‎31-10-2018

I have no trouble believing Ms Norvill.

I think Rush is a sleazebag, and got away with his sleazebag behaviour simply because he has more "clout" than Ms Norvill.

joztamps · ‎31-10-2018

@icyfroth wrote:
I have no trouble believing Ms Norvill.

I think Rush is a sleazebag, and got away with his sleazebag behaviour simply because he has more "clout" than Ms Norvill.

Send the Judge a message and tell him he can stop the case now, who wants to listen to any of that blasted evidence, it just confuses things.

davidc4430 · ‎31-10-2018

@icyfroth wrote:
I have no trouble believing Ms Norvill.

I think Rush is a sleazebag, and got away with his sleazebag behaviour simply because he has more "clout" than Ms Norvill.

what do you base this claim on?

you have some first hand knowledge of him being sleazy?

i cant say im a huge fan of him but have not read or heard of him being acused of anything prior to this.

and we really dont know what 'this' is, other than 1 woman saying she 'felt uncomfortable' when acting with him.

then her telling someone but not wanting it to be told to him?

if she didnt want it getting out she should have kept quiet, or done it right. made a formal complaint.

so now we have his career ruined for what?

even IF the claims are true, he touched her in a way she found inapropriate, all she had to do was open her mouth and say so AT THE TIME!

after all, its not quite rape is it?

have these women got no backbone. feel your getting felt up, slap the guy and give him a mouthfull!

no, much better to stay silent, then in most cases wait until the guy is 75 and suddenly say "oh that dirty man touched me"

or

go tell someone on the side he made me feel all ikky but dont tell anyone. yeah, like that wont get out.

as i said originally, actors are required to do and say things most of us would find pretty bad.

so being touched and fondled isnt ok by this woman, maybe actings not her thing after all.

just how exactly would she handle a sex scene?

the_great_she_elephant · ‎01-11-2018

I think you're confused, David.This isn't a cse she has brought against Rush , it's a case Rush has borought against the Telegraph. He is the plaintiff, not the defendant.

She didn't 'wait till he was 75' and then publicly accuse him. She spoke privately to someone in authority AT THE TIME or soon afterwards. She never wanted or intended for any of it to become public.

And you yourself summed up quite succinctly the reason why she didn't want it made known when you said "her career is prolly over."

davidc4430 · ‎01-11-2018

@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
I think you're confused, David.This isn't a cse she has brought against Rush , it's a case Rush has borought against the Telegraph. He is the plaintiff, not the defendant.

She didn't 'wait till he was 75' and then publicly accuse him. She spoke privately to someone in authority AT THE TIME or soon afterwards. She never wanted or intended for any of it to become public.

And you yourself summed up quite succinctly the reason why she didn't want it made known when you said "her career is prolly over."

that may be true, she didnt bring a case against mr rush, but her actions have brought him to where he is today.

she had the power when the story broke, and many times since, to go public and say 'i made it up' or 'i think in hindsight i over reacted' or something like that. but she stayed silent after the story broke and she saw the damage her claims were doing.

after all when you look at the acusations, what she claims were unwanted advances a lot of other actresses would not have had no problem with. when they happen on stage 'in the moment' not in a dressing room with out witnesses by a known lech.

no, hes not a known lech to my knowledge.

and ive not seen a cavalcade of acresses coming forward doing the 'me too' re mr rush, in fact the opposite.

like i said, how is she going to do her job if her job requires her to do a sex scene? or just mutual canoodling??

it makes no sense.

had she made acusations mr rush had cornerred her in a dressing room and forced himself on her id be suporting her 100% if she ran out and told someone pretty much straight away. maybe even if she went public a while later after quiting the 'show' being so upset by it she couldnt continue to be near this man.

lyndal1838 · ‎01-11-2018

Why would she say she made it up if she didn't? That would be stupid.

From what I have been reading of what various actresses and directors have said GR is known to overstep the mark on occasions but no-one is trying to prove that it happened with this girl.

GR is trying to prove that the accusations have ruined his career....which they probably have....but it is not this girl who had made the accusations public...it is the newspaper.

icyfroth · ‎01-11-2018

I find it interesting not one feminist has come out in support of Ms Norvill.