on 01-10-2014 03:41 PM
Germaine Greer has spoken out about the Duchess of Cambridge's second pregnancy, saying the duchess " has a b…..d of a job" and
is under too much pressure to produce more children.Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/life/germaine-greer-the-duchess-
of-cambridge-is-too-thin-20140929-10ndf1.html#ixzz3ErtyNgg0
on 03-10-2014 06:38 PM
It was my do not reply again comment that got ticked then unticked after I did comment again 😄
on 03-10-2014 06:59 PM
on 03-10-2014 07:48 PM
@karliandjacko wrote:In the context of the survey results she was questioned about they're not. Whatever she said she would have been attacked.
Say nothing = too gutless sell out
Say what she thought = attack of Kate even though it wasn't
Say the opposite = too gutless sell out
That's right, she's been judged as a bitter old woman past her use by date who no longer has the right to voice her opinion, according to some..
Please don't take that as a personal comment directed at you, it wasn't 😄
I don't see it as directed at me, as I don't view her as a bitter old woman, and certainly feel she has a right to voice her opinion, however crass it may be.
I DO see her as someone who courts controversy, and she has done so again here.
As far as your options go...
Kind of hard to play what if, but if she'd said nothing, it seems unlikely we'd be discussing her and her words at all, including the idea that she's a sell-out.
And I have no idea why she'd say the opposite of what she thought, but in expressing her views - restating her philosophy - I think she could have been vastly more diplomatic, and been better served.
But that's not her style, and she may pay some price for her approach in this case.
But I imagine she's delighted to be back in the news; I imagine that's what her attack on Kate was about as much as anything else.
What you call attacks on Greer - controversy which she invited - may be seen by Greer as so much lovely gravy.
Maybe that's a win for her - who knows - but Kate looks good here, and Greer not so much.
At least we're spelling her name right.
on 03-10-2014 08:37 PM
The comments I saw were not an attack on Kate. We must have read different stories about the survey results.
on 04-10-2014 06:32 AM
But I imagine she's delighted to be back in the news; I imagine that's what her attack on Kate was about as much as anything else.
People often like to imagine why outspoken femininst hold the opinions and say the things that they do, and it would appear that being intelligent or well educated, or passionate about the rights of their fellow human beings, or having had a lifetime of acutely observing established disfunctional social structures seem to be at the bottom of the lists of 'imaginings'.
Right at the top of the imaginings list is usually 'jealousy', which I find absolutley bizzare and pretty sad. 'Attention seeking' is another cliam that gets thrown around a lot. These are some very patronising, offensive sterotypes about what motivates women, don't you think?
Every time someone starts this kind of thread I am reminded of how relevent the feminist perspective is, even now.
on 04-10-2014 06:37 AM
@azureline** wrote:
@siggie-reported-by-alarmists wrote:
@li.vish wrote:Hello, everyone. This discussion is getting a little heated. Could we please communicate with a more civil tone. Thanks!
Could you not mark posts as the solution?......that's not your job.
where?
and how come my question was removed but I see other questions have remained?
I opened the thread and found a post had been marked as the solution. As I didn't mark it as the solution, it could have only been the mods, so I unsolved the post. Clearly, I don't appreciate that. Was a question removed?......I wouldn't have a clue. Can you repost it?
04-10-2014 07:05 AM - edited 04-10-2014 07:05 AM
@terroxyboy wrote:But I imagine she's delighted to be back in the news; I imagine that's what her attack on Kate was about as much as anything else.
People often like to imagine why outspoken femininst hold the opinions and say the things that they do, and it would appear that being intelligent or well educated, or passionate about the rights of their fellow human beings, or having had a lifetime of acutely observing established disfunctional social structures seem to be at the bottom of the lists of 'imaginings'.
Right at the top of the imaginings list is usually 'jealousy', which I find absolutley bizzare and pretty sad. 'Attention seeking' is another cliam that gets thrown around a lot. These are some very patronising, offensive sterotypes about what motivates women, don't you think?
Every time someone starts this kind of thread I am reminded of how relevent the feminist perspective is, even now.
The bolded portion might describe Greer's attack on Kate.
Greer seems to presume she's some sort of helpless naif being bullied by Royal monsters rather than a strong woman making informed choices.
Greer the woodswoman will save the day for Little Red Riding Kate!
But it's not that Greer doesn't have historical relevance, and even the possibility of reaching people today.
It's that by choosing to speak in such a demeaning, insulting, presumptious and ill-informed fashion about Kate, she would seem to do her stated cause more harm than good.
But she does herself (as she may perceive it) much good by getting herself out in the spotlight again.
And perhaps her crass approach has more traction, or will gain more in, than I can imagine. Perhaps public discourse is even more addled than I think it is.
We'll see.
on 04-10-2014 07:10 AM
@karliandjacko wrote:The comments I saw were not an attack on Kate. We must have read different stories about the survey results.
We saw the same comments.
We've arrived at differing conclusions.
It happens.
on 04-10-2014 07:17 AM
Did you even read the Newsweek article? Greer is very complimentary of Kate, her criticism is aimed at 'the firm' and it's potentially stifling, opressive and archaic traditions.
on 04-10-2014 10:08 AM
@terroxyboy wrote:Did you even read the Newsweek article? Greer is very complimentary of Kate, her criticism is aimed at 'the firm' and it's potentially stifling, opressive and archaic traditions.
That's what I said way back <<<<<<<<< there.
I see some of the same symptoms (of oppression) occurring in Catherine as were evident in her mother-in-law.