Greens poison Labor

[nero_bolt]

Greens are poison to Australia and the economy.... 

Labor faces a wipe-out in Tasmania:

The latest polling by ReachTEL, published in Hobart’s The Mercury last Saturday, suggests Labor potentially faces a wipeout.

The automated phone poll of 2285 has the Liberals stealing Bass, Braddon and Lyons, while Franklin—held by Labor minister Julie Collins—is too close to call. It has Wilkie holding Denison, despite a strong Labor campaign to wrest it back.

Correct conclusions are being drawn:

Tasmanian federal Labor MPs told The Australian they in large part blamed the party’s relationship with the Greens at the state and federal levels for the potential slide back into oblivion.

**bleep** Adams, a stalwart of the party who the latest polling suggests will fail to defend a margin of 12.3 per cent in rural Lyons, said the party should review its power-sharing deal with the Greens in the state…

“The Liberals ... are using it in their ads - ‘Green means Labor’ - and that sort of caper,” Mr Adams said. “The Greens have created an image in Tasmania that they oppose everything. And that’s the general feeling that 80 per cent of Tasmanians would have about the Greens.

“The majority of Tasmanians think that the Greens are a negative force to jobs, growth and economic activity."…

The Labor MP for the marginal seat of Braddon, Sid Sidebottom, who faces a strong challenge from Liberal Brett Whiteley, agreed that Labor was being damaged by its association with the Greens. “There are people who view the Greens as anti-development,” he said.  

ALP's island fortress under Coalition siege

FACING its first electoral wipeout in Tasmania in almost 30 years - the potential loss of five crucial seats - Labor is redoubling its focus on the island state and moving to further distance itself from the Greens.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/election-2013/alps-island-fortress-under-coalition-...

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@donnashuggy wrote:

Di Smith is campaigning here, I might go and chat to her on Saturday. She was at my local coffee shop last weekend and not many people went up and spoke to her which was a bit sad.

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I can understand that, MOST of the people who live in Bondi are smart people and know exactly what Labor has done to Australia and want nothing to do with them at all.... NOTE that I said most people in Bondi are smart, there area few exceptions who will be backing a losing labor team on Sat the 7th

Malcolm is a a shoe in to win... and Gabrielle will win easy next state election.... Must be a lonley time the odd labor voter in Bondi, shunned by most in the community.

I am sure Di will appreciate you chatting to her ms donna , she will know that at least she will get 1 vote.... 🙂

[lakeland27]

well 30 % .18,265 labor votes in 2010 so donna is not exactly alone. any fool from the LNP would win the seat.

[donnashuggy]

It is rare that I meet anyone that votes LNP around here or they are all lying 🙂

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@lakeland27 wrote:

well 30 % .18,265 labor votes in 2010 so donna is not exactly alone. any fool from the LNP would win the seat.

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It was only 21% LL and Labor lost - 9.4% of their vote there in 2010

http://www.abc.net.au/elections/federal/2010/guide/went.htm

[lakeland27]

'any fool' is not name calling 'any' meaning 'any' doesn't name anyone. therefore i'm calling nobody names.

[*crikey*mate*]

I just think it's really sad that seemingly intelligent and informed adults resort to the lows evidenced in this thread by both sides of the voting spectrum.

I have a lot of respect for the intelligent, especially those who are able to elucidate their values and beliefs in a respectful manner. However it seems that the respectful manner is a bit absent here. It's such a shame really, because all of you have an amazing platform here on which to share your views and educate others who may not be as informed about the politics of our country as yourselves.

I think that everyone needs to remember that the values, beliefs and other intrapersonal variables of each person are a result of the environment in which each of us were raised and now live, so it is inevitible that there will be different opinions within this diversity.

Yes, we are all different, but we are all Australians, and we all only want we we believe to be best for our country now and in the future, don't we? Don't we all at least share that?

Being mean to each other and diminishing each other's beliefs is unlikely to convert the other. Wouldn;t it be more beneficial to everybody, to discuss each other's views rather than diminish them? Who knows, you may well be able to impart some of your knowledge onto someone else.

However, the constant mudslinging and pettiness just hides some pretty intelligent perspectives.

[lakeland27]

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@crikey*mate wrote:

I just think it's really sad that seemingly intelligent and informed adults resort to the lows evidenced in this thread by both sides of the voting spectrum.

I have a lot of respect for the intelligent, especially those who are able to elucidate their values and beliefs in a respectful manner. However it seems that the respectful manner is a bit absent here. It's such a shame really, because all of you have an amazing platform here on which to share your views and educate others who may not be as informed about the politics of our country as yourselves.

I think that everyone needs to remember that the values, beliefs and other intrapersonal variables of each person are a result of the environment in which each of us were raised and now live, so it is inevitible that there will be different opinions within this diversity.

Yes, we are all different, but we are all Australians, and we all only want we we believe to be best for our country now and in the future, don't we? Don't we all at least share that?

Being mean to each other and diminishing each other's beliefs is unlikely to convert the other. Wouldn;t it be more beneficial to everybody, to discuss each other's views rather than diminish them? Who knows, you may well be able to impart some of your knowledge onto someone else.

However, the constant mudslinging and pettiness just hides some pretty intelligent perspectives.

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 its a bit late for a civilised debate Crikey. there hasn't been one held by party leaders. just the odd 'shut up' and years of right-wing propoganda. i suggest you take it up with the media and the LNP leadership who poisoned the waterhole.

[topsidesoul]

According to past politicians (Scott Despoja I think), Labour and Liberals and the minor party members  used to socialise together outside of work hours.

Wether it was a beer or dinner or outside interests, these people did at one stage get along.

Then all at once it stopped when one party brought in  someone from overseas to organise the party and who  decided that politics was war.

If they cannot act civilised, they cannot set a good enough example for the parties followers to act civilised towards each other.

I sometimes watch Q and A because it's great to politicians from all sides get put on the spot and have to talk their way out, verry rarely does a member from each side talk respectfully to the other for the whole show.

Tony Abbott was invited for next weeks show  to sit down with Rudd and has declined, hopefully he decides to and both of them can freestyle their way through the audiences questions.

[izabsmiling]

name calling means nothing and the smiling assassin title made me laugh .Crikey we all have differing views on what constitutes a smiling assassin...I'm trying to remember who referred to me as such once lol

[lakeland27]

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@topsidesoul wrote:

According to past politicians (Scott Despoja I think), Labour and Liberals and the minor party members  used to socialise together outside of work hours.

Wether it was a beer or dinner or outside interests, these people did at one stage get along.

Then all at once it stopped when one party brought in  someone from overseas to organise the party and who  decided that politics was war.

If they cannot act civilised, they cannot set a good enough example for the parties followers to act civilised towards each other.

I sometimes watch Q and A because it's great to politicians from all sides get put on the spot and have to talk their way out, verry rarely does a member from each side talk respectfully to the other for the whole show.

Tony Abbott was invited for next weeks show  to sit down with Rudd and has declined, hopefully he decides to and both of them can freestyle their way through the audiences questions.

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 and a lot still do. one episode of 'kitchen cabinet' was revealing though.. when chris pyne said he had 'no friends on the other side of politics'    some things arent that hard to understand. .