Greyhound Racing Banned in NSW

just heard a breaking news story on ABC radio saying the NSW govt will ban greyhound racing as of mid next year.

 

as an owner of an ex racer but not in nsw i will watch with great interest this story as it unfolds.

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tonights episode of ABCs THE DRUM had Brenton Scott, the chief executive of the Greyhound Breeders, Owners and Trainers Association on trying to give us the industrys idea of why they shouldnt be banned.

 

OMG! if hes in charge they have no hope.

 

he argued the figures in the nsw report were incorrect and 'rubbery' re the deaths of greyhounds. but he could not give any figures to back up his statement.

 

and anyway, all those figures were before 2015, its all been fixed since then, still no figures to back that up.

 

the guy even started calling the killing of excess greyhounds as 'wastage'

 

i think germany tried the same thing a while back.

 

i'm sickened that a labor party is using this as a political stunt.

 

i really hope mike baird isnt rolled on this.

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This bombshell has only just been dropped.  To get accurate figures is not that easy.  The dogs are being put down by vets all over the state, how do you imagine it is possible to put numbers on it ?  Pups are registered and tattooed, and those figures should be possible to gather relatively easy, but what happens after requires considerable work.  What he was saying was that they are working on it.  As dogs are shipped all over the country, it might be hard for one state to know exactly what has happened to a particular dog if they are not racing; they might be living happily on someones large property, or they might be dead.  What is needed is countrywide system that registers each dog, and any change in ownership has to be notified; anybody who cannot account for each of their dogs needs to be penalised.  

Unfortunately groups like the one that made the doco  often go too far trying to make the case more sensational.  As if the  truth was not enough.  The same thing was the doco from UK Pedigree Dogs Exposed, consequent court case against the film maker found number of false claims.  It was pity, because there is lot wrong with some breeds of pure bred dogs; english bulldog in its present form simply should not exist; they cannot breath properly cannot be born naturally.  German Shepherd would be very easily  bred back to where they were 50 years ago; in Europe there is number of very similar breeds, some supposedly GSD ancestors that could be used to fix the deformed hind quarters.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Shepherd

https://pethelpful.com/dogs/11-Dogs-Like-German-Shepherd

 

Unfortunately the KC has a fit at even mentioning introducing different breed to anything "purebred".  The fact is, anything "pure" is inbred.  In the past when dogs were bred for performance, people were not so strict about long pedigree.  Anyway, even if people did keep records, many breeders in 19th century and before were all but illiterate, wonder how reliable were these records.  In any case the British KC was only founded in 1873 and unregistered dogs with unknown parentage were allowed to be  registered and used for breeding .  I have been allowed to research archives of registrations for my breed here in Australia, and I found several dogs registered with both parents unknown back in 1930s, and one as late as the 1950s.

Unfortunately, it is not possible to breed out problems, unless you inbreed very closely (like parent to offspring) for 10 generations, breed thousands of dogs, cull anything with problem and in the end, if your breeding program does not collapse, you will be left with very "pure" strain, which will most likely be sterile and have no functioning immune system.  That is how lab rats are bred.  But normal living creatures all carry number of genetic problems; in population with good genetic diversity they may not pop up all that often, but they are there.  And they are also in Xbred dogs. 

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last night, 7.30 ABC TV, story, ex queensland greyhound racing veternarrian interviewed. made me feel sick what he not only said but the new videos i hadnt seen before.

 

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2016/s4500939.htm

 

the industry is corrupt top to bottom.

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Yes, they need independent overseeing body.  As i was saying for years, there are many really awful people involved, but that does not mean that the silent majority are all bad.  As far as injuries go, they can be partially avoided by proper design of tracks, but as in any sport participants will get injured.  Kids get injured every day, do we ban playgrounds, ban kids footie and athletics?  My dogs have hurt themselves just running through bush on my property, some needed stitching.

 

End of racing will be the end of this beautiful breed.  The handful that are bred for show are not enough to keep the breed going.

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i'm very sorry but there are just too many things in greyhound racing i'm not prepared to give a green light to in order that the breed doesnt become extinct (which i dont believe it will but pups will become very expensive like other pure bred dogs)

 

i cant accept 'wastage'

 

i cant accept destroying perfectly fit healthy dogs because they are not fast enough. its proven they cant rehome all the dogs that are not performers.

 

i cant accept misstreating dogs with injuries.

 

i cant accept the overbreeding in the chase for that one winner.

 

the mear fact barnaby joice is a greyhound racing supporter tells me its a very cruel industry.

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@davidc4430 wrote:

i'm very sorry but there are just too many things in greyhound racing i'm not prepared to give a green light to in order that the breed doesnt become extinct (which i dont believe it will but pups will become very expensive like other pure bred dogs)

 

They wont because they are also shown: http://www.greenhounds.com.au/activities-/showing.html

 

There is so much wrong with the "pure bred" breeding that any **bleep**a could be called a purebred in the

 

future,It has been known in that industry that the ones that don't conform are put down so the "breed" doesn't

 

become "tarnished" but there is no uproar about them).

 

i cant accept misstreating dogs with injuries.

If they are injured then they are treated for the injury via muscle men or vets.

 

the mear fact barnaby joice is a greyhound racing supporter tells me its a very cruel industry.

 

That is just complete carp,(your disgust with one man has nothing to do with the industry),stubborn_smiley_by_mirz123-d4bt0te_zps12f1a5a3.gif


 

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@davidc4430 wrote:

i'm very sorry but there are just too many things in greyhound racing i'm not prepared to give a green light to in order that the breed doesnt become extinct (which i dont believe it will but pups will become very expensive like other pure bred dogs)

 

i cant accept 'wastage'

 

i cant accept destroying perfectly fit healthy dogs because they are not fast enough. its proven they cant rehome all the dogs that are not performers.

 

i cant accept misstreating dogs with injuries.

 

i cant accept the overbreeding in the chase for that one winner.

 

the mear fact barnaby joice is a greyhound racing supporter tells me its a very cruel industry.


Its ALL about you, isn't it?

 

Why don't we just do what PETA wants and ban all domestic animals and turn all vegan?  There is lot of cruelty in the world so why single out greyhound racing?  Maybe to take focus off life sheep and cattle exports?

Putting to sleep healthy young animals is sad, and I wish it would not happen, but HOW is it cruel?  The lethal injection puts them to sleep, fast painlessly.  I held in my arms all my dogs when the time came, and they died peacefully.  It is just like being put under anaesthetic, I wish I could die like that.

 

 

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um, err, well, if you look at the title of this thread you might actually realise why this thread is focused on GREYHOUND RACING!

 

why attack me for wanting the cruelty in greyhound racing to stop?

 

do you not have eyes and ears? a lot of the 'wastage' greyhounds are not being gently sent off to sleep, they are being killed by some very draconian practices. its simple maths to these morons, its done the cheapest way possible. how much do you think it cost to euthenise a dog? ring your vet and ask, it aint cheap. yes i'm sure greyhound breeders get a reduction but nothing beats free for the same result. and then into a hole down the back of the property never seen again. these dogs are so gentle they would stand there while you cut their throats. dont rekon it happens? WAKE UP!

 

christ some people are thick

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In over 50 years of owning animals I have never paid a cent to have any animals euthanised.

My Vet has the opinion that if an owner has looked after an animal well and paid for regular treatment then the least he can do is make the end as painless as possible for both animal and owner.

He also rehomed a guinea pig at no cost to us....the little fellow was lonely as his mates had all gone and my daughter was at work all day so he arranged a new home with a family who had a number of guine pigs.

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@davidc4430 wrote:

um, err, well, if you look at the title of this thread you might actually realise why this thread is focused on GREYHOUND RACING!

 

why attack me for wanting the cruelty in greyhound racing to stop?

 

do you not have eyes and ears? a lot of the 'wastage' greyhounds are not being gently sent off to sleep, they are being killed by some very draconian practices. its simple maths to these morons, its done the cheapest way possible. how much do you think it cost to euthenise a dog? ring your vet and ask, it aint cheap. yes i'm sure greyhound breeders get a reduction but nothing beats free for the same result. and then into a hole down the back of the property never seen again. these dogs are so gentle they would stand there while you cut their throats. dont rekon it happens? WAKE UP!

 

christ some people are thick


And some people have no idea what they are talking about.  The Greyhound Racing have their own vets, who do not charge the way the pet vets do.  Because of the awful way some trainers killed the dogs, the Greyhound association introduced scheme that dogs are euthanized  for next to nothing.  When it was first introduced (some 40 years ago) the payment was $5.  So yes, it cheap, and beats having to kill the dog and then dig a hole for it.

Although I have never owned a greyhound, I have never been to the professional greyhound racing, and have absolutely no   to go, I do not believe we should be banning it.  
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I do know number of people who have or had in past racing dogs, and all of their dogs had a lovely lives.  I also know that these people were aware of the bad practices, but there was nothing they could do, they were just minor players.  Of-course, trying to clean racing up in the past did not work; self regulation just does not work; you need independent body. 

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