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nero_bolt · ‎01-09-2014

Halal Choices..... are you concerned with the halal slaughter of animals such as beef, lamb and poultry.

To be halal certified the animal must be facing Mecca, have its throat cut while still alive and then ritually sacrificed by a Muslim who recites a prayer dedicating the slaughter to Allah.

Because the animals must be slaughtered alive, stun guns are often not an option as they can kill an animal before the heart pumps out all the blood.

http://www.halalchoices.com.au/index.html

Do you read the lables to see whats HALAL or not HALAL Do you purchase HALAL products or not?

Thoughts on the slaughter of animals for HALAL

http://www.halalchoices.com.au/what_is_halal.html

Products That Are Halal Certified

http://www.halalchoices.com.au/product_lists_halal.html

http://www.halalchoices.com.au/product_lists.html

Products That Are Not Halal Certified

http://www.halalchoices.com.au/product_lists_nonhalal.html

Interesting youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mSP47FAtn6U

The presenter is Kirralie Smith, an average Aussie housewife, who does the weekly grocery shopping.

Ms Smith became aware, then alarmed, about the Islamic halal certification on so many of her shopping list items. She looked for a list of halal certified foods so she could make informed choices about what to buy and what to avoid.

There was no such list, yet so many supermarket products were stamped 'halal certified'.

Ms Smith started to do her own investigation, calling supermarket chains, grocery producers - even the halal certifiers - all so she could be better informed when she went to do her shopping.

She has personally contacted over 500 companies to determine their halal certification status.

What she discovered was bigger than big.

Kirralie Smith is the founder and director of HalalChoices. Kirralie holds a BA in Theology and lives with her family in coastal New South Wales. What started as an attempt to put together a shopping list for her family led to two years of research into halal certification schemes in Australia; as well as our most comprehensive resource concerning these tax-like schemes now imposed on the majority of our food products.

nero_bolt · ‎02-09-2014

@daydream**believer wrote:
My kids last school sports day had a sausage sizzle.
All the sausages were Halal.
There were quite a few not impressed that that was the only option.

Now they are having another sausage sizzle this friday. Halal chick sausages and non halal beef ones

Bet the non halal beef ones sell the best if the people are informed and given the choice....

nero_bolt · ‎02-09-2014

From Dick Smith Food

http://www.dicksmithfoods.com.au/media/news/muslim-branding-our-food

Muslim Branding on Our Food

We have received a number of letters from people asking if we will be putting the Muslim Halal logo on our food.

To acquire Halal certification, payment is required to the endorsing body and involves a number of site inspections of both our growers and processors in order to ensure that our practices comply with the conditions of Halal certification. It is important to note that this does not reflect the quality of the food being processed or sold – it only means that the products are approved as being prepared in accordance with the traditions of the Muslim faith.

We are aware of an increasing number of large companies both in Australia and overseas, such as Kraft and Cadbury, who have obtained accreditation to use the Halal logo. We don’t believe they have done this because of any religious commitment but rather for purely commercial reasons. Perhaps these large organisations can afford to do this. While we have a choice however, we would prefer to avoid unnecessarily increasing the cost of our products in order to pay for Halal accreditation when this money would be better spent continuing to support important charitable causes where assistance is greatly needed.

We point out that we have never been asked to put a Christian symbol (or any other religious symbol) on our food requiring that we send money to a Christian organisation for the right to do so.

debra9275 · ‎02-09-2014

the same would apply for kosher food

so companies like Kraft and Cadbury's do it just as a sales pitch then

raptor_rebooted · ‎02-09-2014

@*mrgrizz* wrote:
tell be one abattoir in Australia where animals aren't stunned before slaughter?

i posted this on this thread:

http://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/How-LOW-Can-This-Liberal-Gov-Sink/m-p/1481057#U1481...

There are a number of small abattoirs in Australia that have an exemption to slaughter animals without stunning them first. This means that animals are fully conscious and experience pain and distress when their throats are cut. http://www.rspca.org.au/campaigns/un-stunned-slaughter

raptor_rebooted · ‎02-09-2014

@nero_wulf wrote:
From Dick Smith Food

http://www.dicksmithfoods.com.au/media/news/muslim-branding-our-food

Muslim Branding on Our Food

We have received a number of letters from people asking if we will be putting the Muslim Halal logo on our food.

To acquire Halal certification, payment is required to the endorsing body and involves a number of site inspections of both our growers and processors in order to ensure that our practices comply with the conditions of Halal certification. It is important to note that this does not reflect the quality of the food being processed or sold – it only means that the products are approved as being prepared in accordance with the traditions of the Muslim faith.

We are aware of an increasing number of large companies both in Australia and overseas, such as Kraft and Cadbury, who have obtained accreditation to use the Halal logo. We don’t believe they have done this because of any religious commitment but rather for purely commercial reasons. Perhaps these large organisations can afford to do this. While we have a choice however, we would prefer to avoid unnecessarily increasing the cost of our products in order to pay for Halal accreditation when this money would be better spent continuing to support important charitable causes where assistance is greatly needed.

We point out that we have never been asked to put a Christian symbol (or any other religious symbol) on our food requiring that we send money to a Christian organisation for the right to do so.

how much does the accreditation cost?

*mrgrizz* · ‎02-09-2014

@*julia*2010 wrote:
@*mrgrizz* wrote:
tell be one abattoir in Australia where animals aren't stunned before slaughter?
i posted this on this thread:
http://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/How-LOW-Can-This-Liberal-Gov-Sink/m-p/1481057#U1481...
There are a number of small abattoirs in Australia that have an exemption to slaughter animals without stunning them first. This means that animals are fully conscious and experience pain and distress when their throats are cut. http://www.rspca.org.au/campaigns/un-stunned-slaughter

my understanding is that they need to apply for every animal they wish to "ritual slaughter" not every animal they process is killed in this manner.

we are not talking a whole days production.

is heavily regulated

no I don't agree with it

the_hawk* · ‎02-09-2014

@daydream**believer wrote:
My kids last school sports day had a sausage sizzle.
All the sausages were Halal.
There were quite a few not impressed that that was the only option.

Now they are having another sausage sizzle this friday. Halal chick sausages and non halal beef ones

Bring on the pork snags

*mrgrizz* · ‎02-09-2014

@the_hawk* wrote:
@daydream**believer wrote:
My kids last school sports day had a sausage sizzle.
All the sausages were Halal.
There were quite a few not impressed that that was the only option.

Now they are having another sausage sizzle this friday. Halal chick sausages and non halal beef ones
Bring on the pork snags

i quite often offer the Muslim slaughtermen bacon and egg sandwhiches for smoko

raptor_rebooted · ‎02-09-2014

@*mrgrizz* wrote:
@*julia*2010 wrote:
@*mrgrizz* wrote:
tell be one abattoir in Australia where animals aren't stunned before slaughter?
i posted this on this thread:
http://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/How-LOW-Can-This-Liberal-Gov-Sink/m-p/1481057#U1481...
There are a number of small abattoirs in Australia that have an exemption to slaughter animals without stunning them first. This means that animals are fully conscious and experience pain and distress when their throats are cut. http://www.rspca.org.au/campaigns/un-stunned-slaughter

my understanding is that they need to apply for every animal they wish to "ritual slaughter" not every animal they process is killed in this manner.
we are not talking a whole days production.

is heavily regulated

no I don't agree with it

is that what they mean by "exemption" ?

no animal should be killed in that manner

Australian law dictates that all animals must be stunned so that they are insensible to pain prior to slaughter. However, there are exemptions given to a number of abattoirs to meet a small demand in Australia for religious slaughter (all kosher and some halal products).

*mrgrizz* · ‎02-09-2014

@*julia*2010 wrote:
@*mrgrizz* wrote:
@*julia*2010 wrote:
@*mrgrizz* wrote:
tell be one abattoir in Australia where animals aren't stunned before slaughter?
i posted this on this thread:
http://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/How-LOW-Can-This-Liberal-Gov-Sink/m-p/1481057#U1481...
There are a number of small abattoirs in Australia that have an exemption to slaughter animals without stunning them first. This means that animals are fully conscious and experience pain and distress when their throats are cut. http://www.rspca.org.au/campaigns/un-stunned-slaughter

my understanding is that they need to apply for every animal they wish to "ritual slaughter" not every animal they process is killed in this manner.
we are not talking a whole days production.

is heavily regulated

no I don't agree with it

is that what they mean by "exemption" ?
no animal should be killed in that manner

Australian law dictates that all animals must be stunned so that they are insensible to pain prior to slaughter. However, there are exemptions given to a number of abattoirs to meet a small demand in Australia for religious slaughter (all kosher and some halal products).

yes